Will do next time I get bloods done. Last time I checked both were in range
You’re creating and losing your own psychological battle man. I went through that too for like a week. I have never used Primo and know nothing of it’s side effects, but @lordgains might be on to something when he says this may be more than a bad reaction to AAS. Sometimes, erectile dysfunction occurs to let us know something is wrong. Dopamine receptors take a very long time to recover if that’s what that is, but you mention losing all feelings and that’s not normal. I ran into erection dysfunction and libido problems about 2 or 3 weeks after my cycle, but I was using Testolone (Rad140) then test 400mg weekly to bring me back, then tapered off completely. You are allowing this to consume you, mental battles are tough but the mind does only what you make it do. What helped me, I popped some Tadalafil (generic cialis) and was just happy to see my dick back up. Man did that help me psychologically so much, knowing I can still get it up and was not doomed forever. After that, it has not been nearly close to the weak erections I used to have or loss of libido. Progress was there for me, and it will be there for you. Focus on the mental bro, because just reading how you speak about this you sound hopeless and honestly there is hope. You are not doomed. Guys have came back from much worse, might take you longer, but your psych needs to get dialed in for anything else to follow. I been where you have been exactly, again, there is hope!
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You’re right man. I have been handling it alot better the last few days just trusting the proccess and letting time do its thing. I remember in the beginning I wouldn’t socialize at all so I would say I am making progress, it’s a slow process for sure but when I look back at it I can definetly see the improvement. Thanks alot to you and @lordgains for taking the time to respond
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That’s what I’m saying and I’m also saying that this negatively influences things in return.
Yes.
Your mantra should be „This too shall pass“.
It’s a phase, you‘get through it. Trust the process.
Keep us updated every few weeks how you’re doing especially when you make changes or when something changes.
Stay strong brother
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So far 3 weeks on HCG, no chance in testicle size yet. No improvement in libido or sleep, genitals still numb, and sometimes very cold all of a sudden. Genitals also kind of sore to the touch. Will keep updating
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This is absolutely what I am experiencing. Hope he updates
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I’m feeling very anxious and hopeless today. I have all the symptoms of PFS but never used it.
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Read this:
I think it would be good to evaluate your options of anti depressants. Trazodone seems to be a good fit for you. It helps with sexual function in contrast to SSRIs and it is an anxiolytic.
Another question: do you got something to do besides worrying? I think you should pick up some fulfilling work so you don’t focus only on your health. That works wonders trust me.
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Was just about to post and ask you regarding this. I’ve been trying to stay away from anti depressants this whole time, but I feel like I might need it for a period right now. I will try to get it from my gp. Thanks again. Also, I’ve been having very weird dreams lately, and experiencing sleep paralysis several times. I try to stay distracted with a bit of gaming here and there.
Buy books, read them, write the important parts out. Learn something. Move your life forward. Get a job or learn an instrument. Stop distracting yourself or doing shit just to do something. Do something worthwhile. Use your dopamine reward system for something good. That is step 1.
Get up at the same time very day after 8-9 hours of sleep. That’s step 2.
People underestimate how powerful these are in supporting wellbeing, neurological function and sexual function.
If you need help through medication like antidepressants, get it. It might be the best thing to get you going as well as protecting neurons in the brain. Turn your life around then you might not need them anymore.
In your case I’d only take antidepressants which will positively effect sexual function.
I want to but it’s the sleep that is messing me up. I get tired but I struggle to fall asleep. When I first fall asleep I can only sleep 4-5 hours, I haven’t slept 9-10 hours in a long time, never wake up fresh. Sleep used to be no issue for me. I have recently taken a break from my job because of this. I will try to walk daily.
If your prostate is enlarged it can hinder blood flow and penile function. If Cialis works for you, it aids in blood flow to circumvent that. This could actually be a solid reason.
Neurotransmitters like dopamine are build from proteins and steroids increase dopamine. So in essence a person is altering his or her reward system in the brain. Steroids are known to cause euphoria and sense of well being and enhanced sex is another side effect. But like every thing there is a crash. So a person that doesn’t feel right sexually after pct its because your brain needs to adjust. Hormonally one may be a proper natural levels but the brain is still recovering. How long has it been? You may need more time, simply as that. Try not to add too much. Estrogen sensitizes androgen receptors not only for muscle building but sex drive. You could have low Estrogen. The key is to balance Testosterone, low/normal DHT, and low/normal estrogen.Never below normal. If EVERYTHING is balanced, bro, time to just let the brain sensitize. Can take over a year. If you’ve waited long enough, might be time for anti-depressants what as mentioned WILL NOT CAUSE ED (because that would be counteractive).
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It has been 10 months. I have symptoms just like post finasteride syndrome. Tinittus, very bad brainfog, social disconnection, numb genitals etc. I have been low t after a previous cycle before, handled it pretty well, but this is something else. I feel like a DHT derivative only cycle can screw you up just as bad as finasteride. I was pretty much low estrogen the entire time I was on primobolan, can that permanently mess you up?
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10 months complete drug free, including post PCT? The numbness is what leads me to believe your estrogen is low, causing desensitization of receptors and dopamine. Permanently, I do not think so. Rare instances, but as long as your estrogen is within range, not too high or low, could eventually subside it. Do you know if your prolactin is elevated?
10 months since last pin, currently doing a restart with hcg followed by clomid. I have checked my estrogen but I don’t know if it was the right one it said 0.08 the normal range being 0-0,17. Don’t see how 0 estrogen can be called normal, the ranges being used here are ridicilous. My prolactin was 141 last time I did bloodwork a month ago.
How long after the pin did you do a PCT?
I never did pct unfortunately, my source just vanished. I know it was stupid not to have everything ready, however I never thought primobolan the «safest» aas would ever cause this nightmare
I have never checked my prostate… I really wish this is it. Cialis doesn’t give a full erection… Nothing does… Not even 100mg of viagra along with daily cialis. But I can get to 90% erection if I am sitting. If I lay on my my back I can only get to 50-60%.so it could be from bph but I have no other symptom of it… And it seems weird that it started during pct… I don’t know maybe the high doses of test on cycle where hiding the problem…from what I have read that could explain the watery semen with normal fsh levels. Also the doc did a test (can’t remember what it’s called) on penis and found no vascular problems at all
There seems to be more at play that a doc will need to help you with.
How is your diet at the moment?
Give me a full day. Vitamins too. Weight and bodyfat too please.