[quote]Nominal Prospect wrote:
The guy who fought Fedor was clumsy. You can tell just by the way he moved. He probably has acromegaly or something of that nature, and obviously isn’t the best example of this trend. People who are clumsy can’t harness their own strength and power correctly.
YES YOUR RIGHT BUT THAT IS WHY I POSTED IT, THO BIGGER THAN FEDOR IT WAS/IS HIS WEAKNESS. WHAT IM SAYING IS THO MP OS ATHLETIC IN TERMS OF STRONG MAN HE ISNT IN MMA, HIS WEAKNESSES OVERPOWERS HIS STRENGTHS.
In Lesnar vs. Mir, which I did watch in its entirety, Lesnar completely dominated the fight until Mir managed to pull off the lucky submission. NO YOUR WRONGE, MIR SAW AN OPENING AND USED IT, THAT IS SKIL. Here’s the scoop on submissions: If you have to rely on them to save your ass, you are going to get raped more often than not.
The vast majority of submission attempts fail (that’s a statistical fact, not my opinion). I AGREE BUT WHATS YOUR POINT? SO DO PUNCHES, KICK ETC, IF THEY DIDNT FIGHTS WOULD BE OVER IN SECONDS BUT NO THEY USE ANOTHER SKILL BLOCKING AND COUNTERS.
Submission is the most over-rated aspect of any fighter’s ability. ONE WORD, GRACIE, ONE OF THE BEST FIGHTERS OF ALL TIME BASED ON SUBMISSIONS. It is basically completely unnecessary and that’s why most guys who specialize in it are smaller. Only the little guys love to pull all the bullshit karate moves.
That stuff practically never works the way it’s supposed to in a real fight, it only works in practice. THATS WHY MORE MMA FIGHT ARE WON BY SUBMISSIONS THAN (FACT, NOT MY OPINION), YOU WONT FIND A HIGH LEVEL OR LOW LEVEL MMA FIGHTRE WHO HASNT A GROUND GAME.
Lesnar basically won that fight, in my opinion. Another minute or two and Mir would have been knocked out. He got very lucky. WHAT?? ANOTHER MINUTE AN LESNAR WOULD OF HAD A BROKEN ANKLE.
Bob Sapp is a huge and ferocious negro, but he has a fairly weak chin. Like many of his tribe, he comes out aggressively but goes downhill fast once his opponents start landing a few hits on him. Cro Cop is very agile, swift, and quite strong for his size, so he was able to keep up with Bob. I attribute his victory to physical prowess, not technical ability.
TO ACHIEVE A KICK THAT WAS POWERFULL ENOUGH TO BREAK SAPPS RIBS (REMEMBER SAPP ISNT SOME GUY OFF THE STREETS) TAKES A LOT OF SKILL ( I CANT SQUAT FOR SHIT YET I HAVE KO’ED A DOORMAN A LOT BIGGER THAN ME WITH A HEAD KICK), THAT KICK LANDED WHERE HE WANTED IT TOO AT THE EXACT RIGHT TIME, THAT IS SKILL.
But speaking of Sapp, didn’t he nearly kill some experienced Pride fighters? I don’t even know what the nicknames stand for, but someone said he gave Nog (Nogeira) a good pounding.
YES HE DID BUT NOG STILL WON, YES WHAT SAPP DID PROB COULD OF KILLED A NORMAL PERSON SO COULDNT YOU SAY IT WAS NOGEIRAS SKILL AND EXPERIENCE THAT “SAVED HIM” AND WON HIM THE FIGHT?
Heres the fight
I watch the fights and I see the expressions on their faces. I see how they come out looking as hard as bulldogs and then by the end of the fight, either one or both of them turn into puppies. I’ve seen it time and again.
You are promoting a piece of mythology that makes fighting seem a lot more complex than it is. 98% of fighting comes down to physics and attitude. Attitude is something that people are born with. You don’t develop it in training.
But naturally, “professionals” and the organizations who sponsor them always have a vested interest in making things look harder than they seem.
YES THE FIGHTERS WILL TO WIN IS A HUGE FACTOR ALONG WITH HIS STRENGTH AND CONDITION BUT NO MATTER HOW MUCH YOU WANT TO WIN OR HOW FIT/STRONG YOU ARE, IF YOU DONT HAVE THE SILL YOU WONT WIN THE FIGHT… WHAT YOU FORGET IS THESE BIGGER GUYS THAT I LISTED THAT LOST ARNT JUST JOES OFF THE STREET, THERE STILL TRAINED AND THEY STILL LOOSE.
It’s true with doctors, lawyers, accountants, and yes, brawlers, too.
"It doesnt matter how much you can bench if you don’t know how to escape from side control. "
Lol, I’m sorry, but “side control” is a joke. It’s largely an invented concept, much like all that “ground guard” bullshit. Some asshole got knocked onto his back in training one day and put his legs around his opponent, and presto! The “guard” was born. Because nobody had ever done that before in a fight.
IVE IMMOBILIZED GUYS 4ST HEAVIER THAN ME BY USING SIDE CONTROL, OK ITS ONLY MY WORD AND IT DOESNT MEEN JACK BUT MAYBE YOU SHOULD TAKE A TRIP TO YOUR LOCAL FREE FIGHTERS B4 YOU MAKE STATEMENTS LIKE THAT, ESP WHEN YOU HAVE ADMITTED TO NOT KNOWING MUCH ABOUT MMA.
For this reason, I love listening to the commentary on UFC. These guy know all the terms, and they’re paid to endorse these phoney concepts of technical proficiency. Whenever Joe Rogan yells, “Oh no, It’s looking pretty for [insert fighter], he’s in an arm bar!”
I know that 8 out of 10 times, the guy who is “trapped” is going to break free in about 3 seconds. I keep an informal count of this in my head. It’s funny to see how wrong they are with their predictions.
THAT BECAUSE FOR EVERY SUBMISSION THERE IS A COUNTER AND A COUNTER TO THAT BUT AGAIN IS THEM NOT ESCAPING NOT SKILL?
Don’t you people get it? It’s all marketing. There is no such thing as “side control”. There is no such thing as a “guard”. All there is is fists in your face.[/quote]
AGAIN YOU MAKE A STATEMENT ON SOMETHING YOU KNOW SO LITTLE ABOUT.
EDIT: I ve put the stuff i typed in CAPS, so you can see it.
