[quote]Polish Rifle wrote:
Professor X wrote:
Yeah, but your profile lists you as 170lbs. If you can get dumbbells that heavy into the air for several reps without someone moving half of the weight for you at only 170lbs, you need to be getting ready for the fucking Olympics.
I don’t actually even care to argue about it though. I don’t believe half of the weights I see quoted anyway unless a video is attached.
Well said…
You push 145lb dumbbells for 10 reps but struggle with a bar?
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I dont struggle with a bar, I was doing 300 pounds for 9 reps and can put up 315 plus on an incline, I just aint did flat or decline bar in months in favor of dbs. But I wasnt getting above 300 for 9 when I wanted to get 315 for ten so I switched. I just recently did the 145’s for ten last week.
But fuck it it aint no use gettin into an argument. Just because you believe the earth is flat dont make it flat and just because you dont believe I can do what I say dont mean I cant do it.
I would think that someone that puts up numbers like you, would be a little more intelligent when it comes to lifting, thus this question would never come up. Just my .02 :shrug:
I don’t know… I mean I know there are some freaks out there, but this is pretty nuts. Some pics or vids would be nice. You’d be a legend.
Also, have you done nothing but bench variations for the past 5 years? According to your deadlift and overhead pressing numbers (DB and BB), I am barely behind you there… and IDK about flat bench right now but I incline 110’s for 10 (not too strong I know) but I weigh 220.
So IDK. If you’re lying, you’re a dipshit, if not, you’re a strength freak.
[quote]clip11 wrote:
Professor X wrote:
clip11 wrote:
I work out at the original Powerhouse Gym in Highland Park, MI on Woodward. That was the first one founded by Will and Norman Dabish in 1975.
They have dumbbells that go up to 150 pounds. They do have a pair of 200 pound dumbbells as well. But I dont have no reason to lie. Im not trying to impress people who i never met or prolly never will meet who live in other states.
Yeah, but your profile lists you as 170lbs. If you can get dumbbells that heavy into the air for several reps without someone moving half of the weight for you at only 170lbs, you need to be getting ready for the fucking Olympics.
I don’t actually even care to argue about it though. I don’t believe half of the weights I see quoted anyway unless a video is attached.
Well I am 175 not 170 and muscular.
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Oh, well that makes all the difference. I retract my previous statement.
i dont have a camera so i would have to go out and buy one, then Id have to get someone to video me, and then I still dont know how to post a video and if i posted a vid…no one would know if its really me or not. Maybe I should rephrase my question:
Is there a way to estimate what you can do on a barbell based on what you do on dumbbell?
Thats the best I can phrase this question and i hope it makes sense. But I shit u not on my lifts. But to em I dont see what the fuss is about.
I work out with a guy who can bench press 500 pounds w/o a spot and can incline a pair of 150’s. I know of several men who can press a pair of 150’s. Theres a guy at my gym about 160 pounds who benches 315 last time I saw him w/o a spot. I know of a 205 pound guy that benched 425 w/o a spot.
As for my oh press I do barbell standing and db seated. I do my standing presses behind my neck. I just do reps for that, nothing too heavy (165 lbs) sometime i clean it , other times i take it from a rack. it depends how i feel. For my dumbbell shoulder press my best lift was the 100 lb dbs for ten reps.
I mean im 175 but you have to consider that Im made of bone and muscle and youd be hard pressed to find any fat on my body.
Plus I dont study thi like a science like alot of you do, I just do it for the hell of it. It relieves stress.
[quote]clip11 wrote:
But fuck it it aint no use gettin into an argument. Just because you believe the earth is flat dont make it flat and just because you dont believe I can do what I say dont mean I cant do it.
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Most people can at least do the total weight they are lifting of both DB’s together on a bar, so if you can do 145’s for 10 or so you should at least be able to do 290 for the same number of reps with the same form. People that devote a lot of time to using the barbell will be able to do much more than that, but for the DB specialists out there it may not be much more than the total weight lifted, they just have the form of the DB’s down.
I am not going to give you a hard time like the others, I will just say those lifts are impressive and at your weight, a bench of 300x9 translates to about a 380 bench give or take, that would put you in the top 20 of all raw benches this year at 181. I am posting the top 10 so you can see them, from PLwatch.com
o ok. Well once i can do the 150’s for ten i guess ill go back to the bar. I think ill start with 225 lbs for ten and keep going up 25 lbs trying to get 10 reps. Hopefully i end up at 325 for ten. But if not ill keep workin.
Trying to constantly get stronger keeps me motivated, otherwise i might have given up a while ago.
OP, you first say that you work out alone, and then you say that you work out with a guy who can do blah blah. Pick one and stick with it. Will give you more credibility.
[quote]clip11 wrote:
o ok. Well once i can do the 150’s for ten i guess ill go back to the bar. I think ill start with 225 lbs for ten and keep going up 25 lbs trying to get 10 reps. Hopefully i end up at 325 for ten. But if not ill keep workin.
Trying to constantly get stronger keeps me motivated, otherwise i might have given up a while ago.[/quote]
No one is trying to take away your motivation. Most of the resistance you are getting is because some of us aren’t new to this…and some of us were stronger than average ourselves.
I have no doubt that you are probably stronger than most people…however, so was I and the weight you claimed is pretty damned advanced for anyone claiming your stats (as well as someone asking the questions you are) at least with any hint of good form while doing it.
It takes strength in your entire body to get 140lbs dumbbells into the air from the ground. That includes legs, back, chest, shoulders…everything.
I also don’t think worrying about the weight you claimed is going to accomplish anything at this point. I just think you need to understand that many of us aren’t newbies…and I’m black too.
How old are you? If you really are putting up the weight you claimed, I would think you would be aware how rare that is at this point. Most people should be able to bench press much more than they can use for dumbbells. Very rarely do these two exercises match in the weight used.
The weights don’t really translate but for some they do. Others they don’t. It’s person dependent.
For me DB are somehow easier to lift for pressing movements. Im 6’3 with long arms and lousy leverages but i could press 105’s for seated shoulder presses after a few years. But if i tried to use the bar, i had problems with 185 and 205 would bury me. Granted i did not practice it.
I feel your body adapts to doing whatever it is you’re doing. It in effect specializes. I will also say this, when you go back to the bar, you may not be stronger right away. But the amount of muscle balance, CNS stability and stabiliser muscles you have built up, should cause your BB bench to increase very rapidly. You should shatter all of your old records with the bar in a few weeks.
[quote]Dwight Schrute wrote:
OP, you first say that you work out alone, and then you say that you work out with a guy who can do blah blah. Pick one and stick with it. Will give you more credibility. [/quote]
These are guys at my gym who I may run into. But for the most part I workout alone…why is alot of yall on here so jealous. Is it because you still struggle with 225 pounds even thogh you been lifting for 10 years. Man, ten years ago I was in the 7th grade. SO shit dont be tryn to hop all on my nuts, cus it aint gone make me get no weaker and for damn sure aint gone make you no stronger. Shit when I was still doing bar, 225 for 15 was a warmup for me. A lot of you who talkin shit, it prolly your max on a good day, you know after you done ate your six meals, took all your supplements, and got 12 hours of sleep.
Well see, I still do incline barbell and I done did 325 pounds on there. I keep saying I havent done flat barbell in months. I already know about stabilizers, etc and that dumbbells are for the most part more difficult than the bar.
Whether you want to believe it or not, I am a rare person. And for something to be rare doesnt mean it doesnt exist, it means it dosnt exist in large numbers.
So no, you may never run into someone my bodyweight that can do what I can do. Ill be 22 in December and I been seriously doing this since 2003. Before that I would do pushups, dips between chairs and curl buckets of water. The only bodyweight move I do know is wide grip pull ups.
Like I said before, whether you believe me or not is irrelevant to me being able to do what I do. All I want is a way to estimate what i should be doing on a barbell when I start doing it again based on what I can do with dbs.
Like I said before, whether you believe me or not is irrelevant to me being able to do what I do. All I want is a way to estimate what i should be doing on a barbell when I start doing it again based on what I can do with dbs.[/quote]
Let me ask…exactly how many posts now have been written telling you they do NOT relate directly?
[quote]clip11 wrote:
why is alot of yall on here so jealous. Is it because you still struggle with 225 pounds even thogh you been lifting for 10 years. Man, ten years ago I was in the 7th grade. SO shit dont be tryn to hop all on my nuts, cus it aint gone make me get no weaker and for damn sure aint gone make you no stronger. Shit when I was still doing bar, 225 for 15 was a warmup for me. A lot of you who talkin shit, it prolly your max on a good day, you know after you done ate your six meals, took all your supplements, and got 12 hours of sleep.
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You’re reactions and general ignorance really tell the whole story.
You’re a 22-year old clown, tremendously full of shit, and obviously looking for attention. If you want an ego boost, go post your bullshit on Bodybuilding.com.
What I don’t get is why you need to join an online forum and ask what weight you should be using? If you’re just trying to flaunt your numbers, so be it, but without proof, they’re big claims and a tough pill to swallow especially considering the amount of bullshit that floats around on the internet.
If you can handle 325 on incline, it’s pretty obvious you’ll be handle that, and significantly more, on flat. So it’s a stupid fucking question. Load up the bar and lift it and find out… you aren’t new to this.
Like I said before, whether you believe me or not is irrelevant to me being able to do what I do. All I want is a way to estimate what i should be doing on a barbell when I start doing it again based on what I can do with dbs.
Let me ask…exactly how many posts now have been written telling you they do NOT relate directly?[/quote]
Idk im new on here, youll have to give me the benefit of the doubt for that one.
[quote]Polish Rifle wrote:
clip11 wrote:
why is alot of yall on here so jealous. Is it because you still struggle with 225 pounds even thogh you been lifting for 10 years. Man, ten years ago I was in the 7th grade.
SO shit dont be tryn to hop all on my nuts, cus it aint gone make me get no weaker and for damn sure aint gone make you no stronger. Shit when I was still doing bar, 225 for 15 was a warmup for me.
A lot of you who talkin shit, it prolly your max on a good day, you know after you done ate your six meals, took all your supplements, and got 12 hours of sleep.
You’re reactions and general ignorance really tell the whole story.
You’re a 22-year old clown, tremendously full of shit, and obviously looking for attention. If you want an ego boost, go post your bullshit on Bodybuilding.com.
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Well polish rifle you prolly one of the ones who fit that description. I started off asking a simple ? and it turned into this. You can suck my dick thats wut you can do. Fuck yuou
What can you do? I aint never knocked no one. You jealous because i can walk into a weight room and do after 5 years what most of you who talkin this bs wont be able to do in a lifetime…mf im done defendin myself…fuk u dont come at me like that.
