[quote]pushharder wrote:
Be careful, Sen. You might get sucked down deep enough into the quicksand that you can’t get out. I mean that sincerely and as a real, live online buddy.[/quote]
Thanks. I appreciate the concern.
I think I have like the equivalent of a woman’s period where I drink too much like 4 days in a row every month and then turn back into a normal human.
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
[quote]carbiduis wrote:
[quote]SuperVillian wrote:
Start smoking weed instead. [/quote]
X2
zero calories, and you might be a little “hazy” the next day (no problem lifting in the morning here), but it definitely doesn’t make you feel shitty like booze does (hard to lift the next morning). And if it’s good, one hit should carry a buzz for 3+ hrs.
I’ll have maybe 1-3 drinks, I don’t even like feeling “drunk”. I can honestly have one beer/drink and my desire to have more goes away. I can barely fathom getting “wasted” anymore, it feels shitty, going to bed feels shitty, waking up feels shitty, the rest of the next day feels shitty.
Remember, Alcohol IS a poison.[/quote]
I enjoy the taste of good whiskey and everything in moderation.
Weed is more carcinogenic that tobacco, plus it smells like a fucking dead skunk [/quote]
it’s carcinogenic properties would have an impact…if people smoked an ounce a day. shit, I never even get close to smoking a joints worth across an entire weekend. That’s one of my points, just a tiny bit does the trick.
And I always liked the smell of skunk 
[quote]The Ox Man wrote:
I think everyone that drinks regularly would be wise to take a month off alcohol every once in a while just to prove to themselves that they don’t have a dependency. You’d save a lot of money as well![/quote]
This is good advice. She Say and I usually go dry in February to coincide with a couple of weeks of Velocity Diet (I know I can’t call it the Velocity Diet if I only go 2 weeks, etc). October is a good drying out month also at Chez Say.
[quote]Aggv wrote:
the way our dui laws are, i dont even look at alcohol if i have to drive. Not worth the hassle.
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This, plus I’m not putting my LTC on the line to have a drink at the bar.
I’ve been known to tie one on once in awhile, but if it happens more than 2 or 3 times a year it is rare.
The only times I even drink at home are tax season or when I’m working late in the summer.
And weed sucks for me. I just get paranoid, can’t follow simile conversation and clean things.
It’s the long nights; it skews your total amount of drinks because of the number of hours. I’ll have a beer around 7:00 when I start dinner, half a bottle of wine with dinner, and then 1 to 4 drinks after dinner depending on how long I’m awake. I can pour myself 2 fingers of Scotch every hour from 9 until midnight, wind up with a total of 7 drinks for the night, but just have the very slightest of buzzes going.
Save the lacrosse work for daytime or the weekend and get to bed sooner. Your drink total will come down just as a function of not being up so late.
[quote]carbiduis wrote:
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
[quote]carbiduis wrote:
[quote]SuperVillian wrote:
Start smoking weed instead. [/quote]
X2
zero calories, and you might be a little “hazy” the next day (no problem lifting in the morning here), but it definitely doesn’t make you feel shitty like booze does (hard to lift the next morning). And if it’s good, one hit should carry a buzz for 3+ hrs.
I’ll have maybe 1-3 drinks, I don’t even like feeling “drunk”. I can honestly have one beer/drink and my desire to have more goes away. I can barely fathom getting “wasted” anymore, it feels shitty, going to bed feels shitty, waking up feels shitty, the rest of the next day feels shitty.
Remember, Alcohol IS a poison.[/quote]
I enjoy the taste of good whiskey and everything in moderation.
Weed is more carcinogenic that tobacco, plus it smells like a fucking dead skunk [/quote]
it’s carcinogenic properties would have an impact…if people smoked an ounce a day. shit, I never even get close to smoking a joints worth across an entire weekend. That’s one of my points, just a tiny bit does the trick.
And I always liked the smell of skunk ;)[/quote]
I knew one guy for many years… nobody on the planet ever smoked so much weed as this guy. He lived on that, Marlboros, Pepsi and things like Ring Dings.
At the tender age of 34, he comes down with this malignant growth on his kidney, they rip that out, do some chemo and he’s fine. 4 years down the road… bone cancer. He went about 6 months later, age 37 I knew him for 32 years.
I always wondered if it was the weed or combination of everything he ingested.
I’m in pain management, I’m grandfathered from not having to do the agreement contract thing, but I still don’t want them to possibly test me and find something else in my system. So I stay away from anything that is not prescribed for me.
[quote]carbiduis wrote:
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
[quote]carbiduis wrote:
[quote]SuperVillian wrote:
Start smoking weed instead. [/quote]
X2
zero calories, and you might be a little “hazy” the next day (no problem lifting in the morning here), but it definitely doesn’t make you feel shitty like booze does (hard to lift the next morning). And if it’s good, one hit should carry a buzz for 3+ hrs.
I’ll have maybe 1-3 drinks, I don’t even like feeling “drunk”. I can honestly have one beer/drink and my desire to have more goes away. I can barely fathom getting “wasted” anymore, it feels shitty, going to bed feels shitty, waking up feels shitty, the rest of the next day feels shitty.
Remember, Alcohol IS a poison.[/quote]
I enjoy the taste of good whiskey and everything in moderation.
Weed is more carcinogenic that tobacco, plus it smells like a fucking dead skunk [/quote]
it’s carcinogenic properties would have an impact…if people smoked an ounce a day. shit, I never even get close to smoking a joints worth across an entire weekend. That’s one of my points, just a tiny bit does the trick.
And I always liked the smell of skunk ;)[/quote]
To eliminate the carcinogenic risk, VAPE it, don’t smoke it.
I am not saying you are an alcoholic you have to make that decision, but I would have a hard time justifying that much for myself.
The best advice my mom ever gave me is “no one ever plans on being an alcoholic, you just wake up one day and are.”
Her older brother blew his brains out in an alcohol fueled depression after years of hard drinking, her youngest sister died this year after years of abuse and she divorced my dad because of his drinking. She has some familiarity with it.
I rarely drank or partied in high school and college, mostly because I’m kind of paranoid about who I’m with, where I crash etc. That said, I’ve drank myself into the abyss a few times only to wash up on shore days later like an old piece of driftwood. So I set limits. Around the house, only two drinks, at a party, no more than 8 no matter how I feel or how long I’ve been there.
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
can’t follow simile conversation [/quote]
Is this what you mean by simile conversations?
“The conversation of a man resembles a piece of embroidered tapestry, which, when spread out, showed its figures, but, when it is folded up, they are hidden and lost.”
â??Themistocles
I can’t follow that shit sober.
I used to indulge quite a bit. Maybe one/two nights a week from the age of 18-24. I enjoy getting fairly smashed, but I just don’t do it much anymore. I stopped because I just get too lazy the next day. Even if I wasn’t hungover I would have a huge lack of motivation to accomplish anything. While I liked partying, I like my life more without it. Still drink occasionally, maybe 20ish times a year, for two reasons.
Work - Sometimes drinks are a good way to build professional relationships. My strategy here is to stay out as long as possible, while staying as sober as possible, but appearing to drink quite a bit. I will usually mix in a few diet cokes that fellow drinkers assume are jack and cokes. I build a relationship and am seen as one of the guys who can hang late, but i keep my mind clear enough to not say or do anything stupid. win win.
Special occasions like weddings, 4th of july, bro trips etc… I don’t place any specific limits here. I stop just short of the point where i know i will be devastatingly hungover the next day. I know that line pretty well so i tip toe right up to it. Since I drink infrequently now, i also go top shelf with all my drink selections. scotch is delicious.
[quote]beachguy498 wrote:
[quote]carbiduis wrote:
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
[quote]carbiduis wrote:
[quote]SuperVillian wrote:
Start smoking weed instead. [/quote]
X2
zero calories, and you might be a little “hazy” the next day (no problem lifting in the morning here), but it definitely doesn’t make you feel shitty like booze does (hard to lift the next morning). And if it’s good, one hit should carry a buzz for 3+ hrs.
I’ll have maybe 1-3 drinks, I don’t even like feeling “drunk”. I can honestly have one beer/drink and my desire to have more goes away. I can barely fathom getting “wasted” anymore, it feels shitty, going to bed feels shitty, waking up feels shitty, the rest of the next day feels shitty.
Remember, Alcohol IS a poison.[/quote]
I enjoy the taste of good whiskey and everything in moderation.
Weed is more carcinogenic that tobacco, plus it smells like a fucking dead skunk [/quote]
it’s carcinogenic properties would have an impact…if people smoked an ounce a day. shit, I never even get close to smoking a joints worth across an entire weekend. That’s one of my points, just a tiny bit does the trick.
And I always liked the smell of skunk ;)[/quote]
I knew one guy for many years… nobody on the planet ever smoked so much weed as this guy. He lived on that, Marlboros, Pepsi and things like Ring Dings.
At the tender age of 34, he comes down with this malignant growth on his kidney, they rip that out, do some chemo and he’s fine. 4 years down the road… bone cancer. He went about 6 months later, age 37 I knew him for 32 years.
I always wondered if it was the weed or combination of everything he ingested.
I’m in pain management, I’m grandfathered from not having to do the agreement contract thing, but I still don’t want them to possibly test me and find something else in my system. So I stay away from anything that is not prescribed for me. [/quote]
Really doubt it was the weed, it’s an anti-inflammatory, I won’t get into the whole argument, but the cigarettes and junk food probably did him in more than anything, that is not knowing his stress levels or diet beyond that.
I realized a long time ago that if you’re really into working out, fitness, sports, being athletic etc… going out and drinking is extremely unrewarding, you feel like shit, endanger your gains, and honestly 9 times out of 10 you’re not gonna meet anyone that shares your interests or lifestyle at a bar or festival, especially if you’re there blitzed out of your mind and you end up pretty much being a sideshow for regular folks.
I also speak from personal experience, once met a famous fitness model at a bar once, blacked out, didn’t even know I got her number, ended up texting her and apologizing for being so drunk, she said it was fine and I wasn’t that bad, but turns out she was into me until I made out with another girl in front of her.
After that I really realized there’s no point in me drinking, I can pick up women sober and if I actually meet someone that shares my commitment to health and fitness trying to build upon that connection while holding a beer and slurring your words makes it a harder transition and if you’re lucky enough to pull it off you won’t even remember it.
[quote]pushharder wrote:
Be careful, Sen. You might get sucked down deep enough into the quicksand that you can’t get out. I mean that sincerely and as a real, live online buddy.[/quote]
Happened to me. My only option was to stop completely.
[quote]SuperVillian wrote:
Start smoking weed instead. [/quote]
If it’s escape one wants then one would have to question why are they needing to alter their mind and body. Weed pretty much kills motivation. If you smoke once or twice a week, then it’s probably ok. If you burn every day, there’s something wrong.
[quote]Rockscar wrote:
[quote]SuperVillian wrote:
Start smoking weed instead. [/quote]
If it’s escape one wants then one would have to question why are they needing to alter their mind and body. Weed pretty much kills motivation. If you smoke once or twice a week, then it’s probably ok. If you burn every day, there’s something wrong.[/quote]
You can alter your mind, body, and mood eating your favorite foods, healthy or not. It’s a personal journey, weed doesn’t kill motivation, people kill motivation. I’ve always maintained that people who blame substances are excusing their own behavior. Alcoholics don’t have a problem with drinking, they have a mental issue that they need to address that they cope with through alcohol.
If you stop the booze and don’t address your own personal psyche then it will manifest itself in another form. So I agree with you in that you need to talk a look at yourself first before further supplementing your lifestyle with substances, but ultimately we all get high off a variety of things, working out included.
We all just gotta find that one that we can enjoy and control at the same time, some can handle drinking, some can’t, some can handle dieting, some can’t without binging and purging, it’s all the same.
[quote]SuperVillian wrote:
it’s all the same. [/quote]
No, not really, not even remotely close, but I’m not going to argue with you about.
You just keep on keeping on.
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]SuperVillian wrote:
it’s all the same. [/quote]
No, not really, not even remotely close, but I’m not going to argue with you about.
You just keep on keeping on.[/quote]
Obviously there are is differences between ingesting a foreign substance and causing a chemical reaction in the brain through an activity or satiation, but the underlying idea is that it’s different for everyone in terms of what they are able to enjoy responsibly, I’ve never done cocaine nor have I ever wanted to, but I am no stranger to the depths of internet porn, the negative consequences of overindulgence may manifest themselves much quicker with one addiction as opposed to another, but lacking the ability to cope with reality or properly deal with past experiences or feelings is the root of the problem.
[quote]SuperVillian wrote:
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]SuperVillian wrote:
it’s all the same. [/quote]
No, not really, not even remotely close, but I’m not going to argue with you about.
You just keep on keeping on.[/quote]
Obviously there are is differences between ingesting a foreign substance and causing a chemical reaction in the brain through an activity or satiation, but the underlying idea is that it’s different for everyone in terms of what they are able to enjoy responsibly, I’ve never done cocaine nor have I ever wanted to, but I am no stranger to the depths of internet porn, the negative consequences of overindulgence may manifest themselves much quicker with one addiction as opposed to another, but lacking the ability to cope with reality or properly deal with past experiences or feelings is the root of the problem. [/quote]
Heroin/Morphine etc causes enormous physical suffering when withdrawn from the addict. People have had seizures and died from benzodiazepam withdrawals. Alcoholics can have delirium tremens. Drug addiction is not all in the mind.
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
[quote]SuperVillian wrote:
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]SuperVillian wrote:
it’s all the same. [/quote]
No, not really, not even remotely close, but I’m not going to argue with you about.
You just keep on keeping on.[/quote]
Obviously there are is differences between ingesting a foreign substance and causing a chemical reaction in the brain through an activity or satiation, but the underlying idea is that it’s different for everyone in terms of what they are able to enjoy responsibly, I’ve never done cocaine nor have I ever wanted to, but I am no stranger to the depths of internet porn, the negative consequences of overindulgence may manifest themselves much quicker with one addiction as opposed to another, but lacking the ability to cope with reality or properly deal with past experiences or feelings is the root of the problem. [/quote]
Heroin/Morphine etc causes enormous physical suffering when withdrawn from the addict. People have had seizures and died from benzodiazepam withdrawals. Alcoholics can have delirium tremens. Drug addiction is not all in the mind.
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A chemical dependency can be developed, but if you want to truly conquer the disease/addiction you have to attack the issues that drew you to it in first place along with eliminating it from your lifestyle, this is all I’m saying, if you don’t attack the root of the problem it just comes up in another form, that’s what I mean when I say it’s all the same, dated a girl that was a tremendous coke head and weed addict, cut out drugs, but then became an alcoholic, she still lacked self-control or took responsibility for her actions.