Don’t freak out over this bullshit. Emergency evacuations won’t happen, unless maybe, MAYBE the reactor does meltdown. (which it won’t) My friend is going to school to become a nuclear physicist, he’s 23, and half done with a masters in that crazy shit. He posted yesterday that at the gates to the fukushima plant, the radiation is so mild, that you’d have to stand there for 4.5 hours to get the same effect as one CT scan.
That’s at the gates to the fucking plant. California has nothing to worry about. Any emergency evacuation is gonna get a lot more people killed than radiation will.
[quote]Nards wrote:
Don’t worry about dying from this…the world ens in 2012 anyway. Or that moon thing this month.
How did Y2K go again. I forget?[/quote]
Yeah, like radiation isn’t real and shit.[/quote]
It’s real, but the hype over the danger is overreaction. The effect will be minimal at best. Distance+ dispersion= relative safety. [/quote]
It’s not over yet, by a long means.
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[quote]Nards wrote:
Don’t worry about dying from this…the world ens in 2012 anyway. Or that moon thing this month.
How did Y2K go again. I forget?[/quote]
Yeah, like radiation isn’t real and shit.[/quote]
It’s real, but the hype over the danger is overreaction. The effect will be minimal at best. Distance+ dispersion= relative safety. [/quote]
It’s not over yet, by a long means.
[/quote]
[quote]Wambat wrote:
Oh, so you don’t think Pearl Harbor was a Japanese fuck up?
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Not sure how a military strike on a U.S. occupied harbor is a ‘fuck up’ seems like they did a pretty good job, if anything Pearl Harbor was a U.S. ‘fuck up.’ Since, you know they didn’t see it coming until the planes crashed into the ships.
You know what wasn’t a Japanese ‘fuck up’ signing the peace treaty signed by forty-eight Allies and Japan, as well as, the Treaty of Mutual Cooperation and Security signed by the United States and Japan where Japan shut down the leftist socialist movement in their own country to reconcile relationship back to pre-WWII status. As well, I am sure it wasn’t a ‘fuck up’ by the Japanese to have ex-Imperialist soldiers help with U.S. military options after WWII. I’m sure it also isn’t a ‘fuck up’ for the Japanese energy companies to ask their Japanese employees to sign their death certificates to help prevent further damage to Japan itself and other countries such as America to the east. I mean really…the only ‘fuck up’ Japan can be blamed for is not listening to the Blessed Virgin Mary.
But, Pearl Harbor can hardly be a mess up. They attacked a British ally (with a heavily powered Navy in the Pacific aka outside their front door) that had previously protested against Japan’s military attempt at colonization of Northern China because of America’s colonial allies in Europe.
[quote]Nards wrote:
Don’t worry about dying from this…the world ens in 2012 anyway. Or that moon thing this month.
How did Y2K go again. I forget?[/quote]
Yeah, like radiation isn’t real and shit.[/quote]
It’s real, but the hype over the danger is overreaction. The effect will be minimal at best. Distance+ dispersion= relative safety. [/quote]
It’s not over yet, by a long means.
[/quote]
Touring chernobyl doesn’t sound like a good idea to me. Isn’t the half life of nuclear materials like 25 years? I don’t think those tissue paper suits and dust masks are gonna help much either.
[quote]Hyena wrote:
Don’t freak out over this bullshit. Emergency evacuations won’t happen, unless maybe, MAYBE the reactor does meltdown. (which it won’t) My friend is going to school to become a nuclear physicist, he’s 23, and half done with a masters in that crazy shit. He posted yesterday that at the gates to the fukushima plant, the radiation is so mild, that you’d have to stand there for 4.5 hours to get the same effect as one CT scan.
That’s at the gates to the fucking plant. California has nothing to worry about. Any emergency evacuation is gonna get a lot more people killed than radiation will.[/quote]
+100000000
I wish more people would spend 20 minutes reading up how nuclear reactors and radiation before speaking about it after watching the news for a day. Any risk is so minimal it shouldn’t be worth mentioning. I’d personally have zero problem walking to the plants and helping with the cleanup if I was nearby. 25% of people will get cancer regardless of any excess radiation they are exposed to in their life.
[quote]Hyena wrote:
Touring chernobyl doesn’t sound like a good idea to me. Isn’t the half life of nuclear materials like 25 years? I don’t think those tissue paper suits and dust masks are gonna help much either.[/quote]
Do you think that the Russian government would allow this if it wasn’t relatively safe?
I know what you’re saying, though. I’d rather do a million other things than visit Chernobyl.
[quote]Hyena wrote:
Touring chernobyl doesn’t sound like a good idea to me. Isn’t the half life of nuclear materials like 25 years? I don’t think those tissue paper suits and dust masks are gonna help much either.[/quote]
Do you think that the Russian government would allow this if it wasn’t relatively safe?
I know what you’re saying, though. I’d rather do a million other things than visit Chernobyl.[/quote]
It’s not safe. You only get to see a few places were rad levels are low ( and the famous Ferris Wheel ) and you get to wear a 45lb Hazmat suit.
At least it was like this last time I check.
There are people living in the quarantine zone. People who evacuated when the power plant exploded and then came back and tried to resume their normal lives, these people are still alive, most of them anyway. So, figures, safe for them, safe for visitors.
Edit: BTW I just checked on Wikipedia. Seems the Chernobyl Power Plant is still operational and people still work there. I though it was abandoned.
[quote]Hyena wrote:
Touring chernobyl doesn’t sound like a good idea to me. Isn’t the half life of nuclear materials like 25 years? I don’t think those tissue paper suits and dust masks are gonna help much either.[/quote]
Do you think that the Russian government would allow this if it wasn’t relatively safe?
I know what you’re saying, though. I’d rather do a million other things than visit Chernobyl.[/quote]
It’s not safe. You only get to see a few places were rad levels are low ( and the famous Ferris Wheel ) and you get to wear a 45lb Hazmat suit.
At least it was like this last time I check.
There are people living in the quarantine zone. People who evacuated when the power plant exploded and then came back and tried to resume their normal lives, these people are still alive, most of them anyway. So, figures, safe for them, safe for visitors.
Edit: BTW I just checked on Wikipedia. Seems the Chernobyl Power Plant is still operational and people still work there. I though it was abandoned.[/quote]
Right, but it’s still “safe” enough for them to have tours in Chernobyl. Ok, not in EVERY part of it, but Chernobyl nonetheless.
[quote]Hyena wrote:
Touring chernobyl doesn’t sound like a good idea to me. Isn’t the half life of nuclear materials like 25 years? I don’t think those tissue paper suits and dust masks are gonna help much either.[/quote]
Probably the most sane thing you’ve ever said on T-Nation.
Just like to point out that the Japanese PM already compared this to WWII, saying something like this is the largest disaster Japan has faced since WWII…and my thought was…they wouldn’t have had a WWII “disaster” (nice evasive way to call two nuclear bombs dropped on them) if they hadn’t attacked Pearl…so they kind of brought that “disaster” on themselves. Comparing an 8.9 earthquake/tsunami/nuclear reactor problem is not possible and not a very politically savvy thing to say.
[quote]Wambat wrote:
Oh, so you don’t think Pearl Harbor was a Japanese fuck up?
[/quote]
Not sure how a military strike on a U.S. occupied harbor is a ‘fuck up’ seems like they did a pretty good job, if anything Pearl Harbor was a U.S. ‘fuck up.’ Since, you know they didn’t see it coming until the planes crashed into the ships.
You know what wasn’t a Japanese ‘fuck up’ signing the peace treaty signed by forty-eight Allies and Japan, as well as, the Treaty of Mutual Cooperation and Security signed by the United States and Japan where Japan shut down the leftist socialist movement in their own country to reconcile relationship back to pre-WWII status. As well, I am sure it wasn’t a ‘fuck up’ by the Japanese to have ex-Imperialist soldiers help with U.S. military options after WWII. I’m sure it also isn’t a ‘fuck up’ for the Japanese energy companies to ask their Japanese employees to sign their death certificates to help prevent further damage to Japan itself and other countries such as America to the east. I mean really…the only ‘fuck up’ Japan can be blamed for is not listening to the Blessed Virgin Mary.
But, Pearl Harbor can hardly be a mess up. They attacked a British ally (with a heavily powered Navy in the Pacific aka outside their front door) that had previously protested against Japan’s military attempt at colonization of Northern China because of America’s colonial allies in Europe.[/quote]
Objectives? Outcome? Fucken US Military rules!
EDIT: Plus it was more of a US fuck up because the Government at the time had the intel but decided not to act because it was just not thinkable.
[quote]Hyena wrote:
Don’t freak out over this bullshit. Emergency evacuations won’t happen, unless maybe, MAYBE the reactor does meltdown. (which it won’t) My friend is going to school to become a nuclear physicist, he’s 23, and half done with a masters in that crazy shit. He posted yesterday that at the gates to the fukushima plant, the radiation is so mild, that you’d have to stand there for 4.5 hours to get the same effect as one CT scan.
That’s at the gates to the fucking plant. California has nothing to worry about. Any emergency evacuation is gonna get a lot more people killed than radiation will.[/quote]
+100000000
I wish more people would spend 20 minutes reading up how nuclear reactors and radiation before speaking about it after watching the news for a day. Any risk is so minimal it shouldn’t be worth mentioning. I’d personally have zero problem walking to the plants and helping with the cleanup if I was nearby. 25% of people will get cancer regardless of any excess radiation they are exposed to in their life.
OP is retarded, or trolling.[/quote]
I fucking HATE newspapers and media, and how they manage to blow every-fucking-little-thing out of proportion.
No logic involved with the masses, and mass hysteria certainly sells.
[quote]Hyena wrote:
Don’t freak out over this bullshit. Emergency evacuations won’t happen, unless maybe, MAYBE the reactor does meltdown. (which it won’t) My friend is going to school to become a nuclear physicist, he’s 23, and half done with a masters in that crazy shit. He posted yesterday that at the gates to the fukushima plant, the radiation is so mild, that you’d have to stand there for 4.5 hours to get the same effect as one CT scan.
That’s at the gates to the fucking plant. California has nothing to worry about. Any emergency evacuation is gonna get a lot more people killed than radiation will.[/quote]
+100000000
I wish more people would spend 20 minutes reading up how nuclear reactors and radiation before speaking about it after watching the news for a day. Any risk is so minimal it shouldn’t be worth mentioning. I’d personally have zero problem walking to the plants and helping with the cleanup if I was nearby. 25% of people will get cancer regardless of any excess radiation they are exposed to in their life.
OP is retarded, or trolling.[/quote]
I fucking HATE newspapers and media, and how they manage to blow every-fucking-little-thing out of proportion.
No logic involved with the masses, and mass hysteria certainly sells.[/quote]
Once we were evacuated due to brush fires in the Laguna and Newport Coast areas.
When they announced the evacuations on the TV news, people showed up on our street with lawn chairs and set themselves up to watch the fires. We’re on a hill so there was a good view. Not kidding. There were so many people coming out to watch, they were blocking the driveways.