Hello gentlemen, I have a very unique situation. A situation so unique I am sure many of you will not be able to relate. But I am hoping someone can shed some light on the situation. If you read all of the following I assure you I am truly grateful for your time.
First the Background information- I have been doing martial arts most of my life and running and lifting weights as well, several years ago I was a beast, athletic, flexible, explosive. I had a back injury in training and saw a bad chiropractor which made things go down hill, I battled this back injury as it got worse and it eventfully rendered me inactive, this inactivity lasted a whole year, when I came back to the gym finally my body was weak from the year off but I was stupid and competitive and lifted with old training partners and tore my shoulder lifting in the first couple weeks back. hot headed kid you know? anyways I had surgery on my labrum which went well, but for some reason Physical therapy went horribly, I saw several different PT’s and I never got my strength back in my shoulder, Its like I could do the workouts, but the next day or two my shoulder would be inflammed and heal very slowly. I studied PT, watched and read almost everything under the sun, It’s been two years since my surgery and I’ve almost come off the injury several times. The only thing that helps my shoulder is resistance training, lifting light weights through ranges of motions, pushing, pulling at different angles etc. But after I lift weights my shoulder and shoulder blades are stiff for like 3 days which makes training consistent virtually impossible. My internal and external range of motion and strength is poor in both shoulders which indicated rotator cuff weakness. I got a recent MRI and was surprised to see nothing is torn, they said my bicep tendon comes out of the groove sometimes on overhead motions and they don’t want to do surgery but rather strengthen my whole body before i start doing overhead motions. as a side note my back injury healed long ago but he total time i’ve been injured is over 3 years and my whole body is weak and tight since i’ve never been able to lift consistently, i’ve been running and doing corework but my legs arn’t that strong and they are also tight. My whole body is weak and stiff and I need to become strong and loose. stretching only makes it worse, the only thing that makes it better is the natural stretch and contraction that you get through resistance training.
I am 5’6 140 lbs 22 years old not very strong but I have elected to do a cycle due to my very unique situation.
I have never done a cycle before and I only want to do one hopefully. After my research it seemed that Deca and test would be the best for this since I can’t get my hands on HGH. At first I was thinking okay I will do 400 mg of deca and 500 mg of Test like most people recommended for the 12 weeks (and yes i’m aware the half life of deca). But I came across some very interesting information which really threw me off.
The information is from Dynamo_Hum in the thread HGH for bone density
it is long so I will summarize some and cut and paste some. Bascailly he says that while taking test will dramatically increase protein synthesis is will reduce collagen synthesis by 50-80% depending on the amount
To plan a cycle where the goal is to increase skeletal muscle mass/strength while at the same time increase joint/tendon/ligament strength, enough to keep up with the dramatic increase in skeletal muscle, you must choose drugs like Eq, Deca, Anavar, or Primo as the base of your cycle. Testosterone and its esters can be added to your cycle to keep levels within a ‘normal’ physiological range (ie, 100-200 mg/wk) but must not go above this. Since drugs like eq, deca, anavar and primo will reduce endogenous, natural levels of test, these levels may be maintained with exogenous test in the 100-200 mg/wk range. Test at this dose will not inhibit collagen syn, but paradoxically, will help increase it. It is when exogenous testosterone is used > 200 mg/wk that collagen syn is inhibited.
Deca @ 3 mg/kg a week(about 270 mg/wk for a 200 lb male) will increase procollagen III levels by 270% by week 2. Procollagen III is a primary indicator used to determine the rate of collagen syn. As you can see, deca is a very good drug at giving you everything you want – an increase in collagen syn, an increase in skeletal muscle, and increases in bone mass and density. The one thing it does not give you is wood.
so natually after reading this I am now confused and not sure how to approach my situation. Should I really only do 200 mg of deca 200 mg of test? this seems low for a cycle but what do I know? I want to heal, I need to recover faster so I can strengthen my body more consistently but I do what that collegen synthesis increase. I even thought about doing the low dose for the first 6 weeks for tendon repair then week 7-10 for deca and week 7-12 for test amping up the dose, or is that not intelligent? kind of lost here guys. Or maybe given my unique situation there is a better cycle that I could run besides deca and test, maybe add something to it or a different cycle in general…I want to you know have normal hormones a couple months after this cycle is done so i can be natural after this one hopefully. This is why I’m consulting the experts, I would really appreciate your input, and if you read all of this post I must say I am very grateful and thankful for your time.