What is TRT and What is NOT TRT

[readalot]

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@dbossa

Take the MINIMUM amount to resolve symptoms. The MINIMUM amount. Whatever that MINIMUM amount is. No man out there will need 500mg a week to accomplish this.

I have also stated countless times that if you continue to raise the dose past this MINIMUM amount to resolve symptoms, we do not know what may occur as there is zero evidence either way of what that outcome might be.

You should rephrase this for accuracy. Perhaps:

Take the MINIMUM amount to resolve symptoms. The MINIMUM amount. Whatever that MINIMUM amount is. If you raise this (MINIMUM amount to resolve symptoms) past physiological levels, which cover the very vast vast majority of the human population (non-outliers, not clinically diseased), we do not know what may occur (especially long-term) as there is scant evidence either way of what the outcome might be for you.

Therefore go back to above and revise your statement to something along the lines of what I recommended.

1. Concede that your recommendation (and the providers you learned from) would and are raising many men above physiologic levels of testosterone (by your own comments and comparing against dialysis free T reference ranges). This resolves “symptoms” but the long-term consequences of such a treatment are unknown.
2. This is subtle but very different than saying:

@dbossa

I have also stated countless times that if you continue to raise the dose past this MINIMUM amount to resolve symptoms, we do not know what may occur as there is zero evidence either way of what that outcome might be.

There’s no magic protection by making sure you don’t raise dose past the MINIMUM amount to resolve symptoms if that dose puts you firmly above physiologic levels. Heck, there’s no guarantee with TRT (inside physiologic levels).