Yeah, did my first delt injection yesterday. Not bad at all. Except I did it with a 30G, so it took forever for the T to come through the syringe.
yea its why I don’t fuck with anything smaller. Also I think there is some literature that the smaller gauges create a jet? like too much pressure coming out of a small hole, causing trauma. not sure how true it is.
I read all your thread and was a little horrified internally. Are you sure that a dosage of 200 will be acceptable? I would be wary of such a concentration. Read the material of this clinic. usage guide. Maybe this will help you in your question. Do not experiment with hormone injections, if this is not your specificity.
No reason for you to be horrified. I’ve read just about everything out there. 200 is what I need, as recommended by the numerous medical professionals I’ve consulted. Many here would back that up.
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Dr Crisler stoped using a AI himself, quit prescribing AIs, and was becoming a patient of Dr. Nichols before his death if that tells you anything
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Ehhh, I use 200mg, I don’t need it, my FT is sky high on it (TT is also pretty high) on that dose, however bloods, cardiac evaluation all look great (except for LDL cholesterol, however HDL/LDL ratio is fine), cardiac ultrasound fine, felt great (now on 250 for a brief span of time, however this is a cycle, not TRT, 200mg is more of a glorified cruise for me). I have never been above 250, feel great, fit as a fiddle (except for now, am sick with either common cold or flu, will see how bad the sickness progresses to tell)
anyhow, some people can handle 200mg, some people need it, some people don’t. Not particularly horrifying (my actual TRT dose is 150mg/wk)
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Then the twice daily cream is your ticket. Most consistent levels you can get 24/7. Look at the pharmacokinetics in the journal of andrology 2017.
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Yeah, I haven’t taken one in a few months now. Definitely feel better since dropping it! Not huge differences in terms of libido (it’s been fits and starts while I get my T protocol dialed in), but I have noticed differences in muscle gain, skin/hair health, and general mood. I have no plans to control estrogen in the future, but I do have an AI onhand (ordered before stopping) just in case.
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Totally agree. 200mg is not a super high dose for some people, particularly those in the high-SHBG crowd like myself. I’d even be willing to push it to 250mg and wouldn’t expect any adverse effects from that. Sometimes you need a big dose to achieve optimal health, given other variables.
So far, my general bloodwork, in terms of longevity, looks solid. I have had similar cholesterol ‘concerns’ (if you could call it that, they’re very minor), but I’m working on those by increasing fish oil and adding niacin. I think as long as you’re on top of bloodwork and are willing to supplement/adjust diet based on the data you receive, you really have no reason for concern despite 200/250 seeming ‘high’ to some.
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I did not know niacin had an effect on cholesterol, that’s good to know. I always thought it just had to do with blood flow or something, being it seems to be put in pre-workouts a lot.
It definitely gives you the prickly feeling of a preworkout, particularly if you take it on an empty stomach. First time I took it, I had nothing in my stomach and my skin went totally red. My wife was panicked! I take 500mg a day with food, and 3-4 fish oil. Cardio is also good for cholesterol, though I only do LISS right now (HIIT comes in if I’m trying to get shredded).
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A lot of people seem to hate that prickly feeling, I always liked it. As soon as I felt that I would feel like the pre was kicking in and ready to go.
Oh yeah, I liked it a lot with preworkouts, too (haven’t taken one in a long time now). It’s a little too intense with Niacin, though – definitely don’t want to take that on an empty stomach.
As you say. Let it be 200.
I’ve been starting a couple lists and would love to hear from you with any additions that come to mind.
What Can Increase SHBG
Caloric restriction
Overtraining
Vegetable-based proteins
Eating too little protein
Alcohol consumption
Excessive caffeine consumption
Metformin
Antidepressants/beta blockers
What Can Lower SHBG
Vitamin D
Fish oil
Magnesium
Boron
Stinging nettle root
Eating more carbs
Zinc
Danazol
Oxandrolone
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Lisinopril definitely raises SHBG. very common bp medication.
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Vitamin D, Magnesium, Zinc, Stinging nettle root had NO effect on MY SHBG.
As best I can tell, the former three have not affected mine, either. I have not tried stinging nettle. Would you say Danazol is all that’s worked? I am debating whether I should cut my coffee consumption (4 cups day currently).
Hi, I’ve written before that I eliminated almost all caffeine and sugar from my diet in an effort to get balanced. I also gave up my chocolate coated almonds which was my go-to snack (I miss the almonds!). Actually I did a million other things to lower my levels, but nothing had a noticeable effect. These are all documented in my thread.
Boron worked for me so I am a supporter of Boron, especially for guys who don’t have insane SHBG levels.
Proviron worked wonders for many guys on the 'net, but not for me. I think it was because my levels were insane.
In the end, boron and danazol are the only things that helped me.
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This is great stuff. I love chocolate-coated almonds; they’re definitely a treat, but such a satisfying treat. It’s good to know I don’t need to be too worried about caffeine – coffee is such a pleasurable part of my day.
Would you mind reminding me of your current full protocol? If Danazol doesn’t end up working for me, I think Proviron will be my next step. But I’ll give the Danazol plenty of time.