Does anyone have thoughts on this^
You sure your dose was 14 grams a day? That’s quite a large dose.
@roscoe88 I’m positive.
This is the brand I used. With 1/2 tsp = 981 = ~1g, I would take 1/2 tbsp (=~3g) with each meal totalling ~9g, then I would take ~2g pre workout and ~3g post workout. This may seem like a large dose.
This article says that 68mg / 1lb body weight is a tolerable dose. At 234lbs, I could take 15,912mg.
Update:
I spoke to my doctor about Wellbutrin and he said we could try it to see if it was effective in the same regard as the tyrosine. He prescribed 150mg Bupropion SR tablets to be taken 2x daily (first three days only 150mg daily). 300mg daily seemed to me to be a high dosage for someone like myself who’s never really struggled with depression or severe symptoms, just low libido, poor/irritable mood, and brain fog (all symptoms that improved with tyrosine, but not resolved completely). I’m going to try taking 150mg split into two 75mg (cutting tabs in half) doses throughout the day to see how my body responds and if the Wellbutrin has the same effect after a few weeks. I’m going to give it 4 weeks before I think about raising the dosage or anything to assess its benefits and side effects.
I’m hoping to elevate my mood and get a stronger sex drive from Wellbutrin, without having to rely on Proviron or eating scoops of Tyrosine powder all day like I’ve done so/been doing in the past. I will update if I notice its effects, or after 4 weeks. I will still be checking this forum often.
Be careful about cutting Wellbutrin tablets. Talk to you dr about this.
Many of them are designed to have a special coating to slow the release of
The medicine. Cutting tabs can defeat this purpose ultimately releasing way too much of the chemical into your body too fast. Higher seizure risk. Tread lightly here and ASK YOUR DR.
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I think my wife may benefit from Wellbutrin.
She is depressed about her job. Has little motivation to lose weight. And is obese. Low libido. She’s in a rut right now.
And it seems from the quick reading I did it non addictive. Can it be stopped with no issue?
And do you suggest the XL form? Or anything else
Thanks guys.
I’ve always stopped cold turkey but dr will tell u to taper down dose
I liked the 12 release as opposed to the 24 hour one. It can affect sleep.
Wellbutrin’s a tough one, it’s a mixed bag in terms of what the individual experiences when taking it. Most clients (and therapists) I know hate the stuff. BUT for those it works for, it’s a life saver. Can help with mood while avoiding things like weight gain and loss of libido.
Stopping these meds is also a mixed bag. @roscoe88 for example says he can stop cold-turkey, others will get royally fucked up doing that. Also, as roscoe noted, it can affect sleep, it’s stimulatory.
Maybe a couple doses of Xanax for wife will do.
Benzodiazepines can be useful short-term but if it’s possible to avoid them I would. Has she been to see a therapist? That would be the most useful thing of all.
I wish my doctors had felt this way, 30 years is too long. I distrust sick care doctors.
Yes, they hand them out like candy. One of the most addictive substances on earth.
That’s something I hadn’t considered before. Just looking at the tablets, I doubt this is the case with what I’ve been prescribed. The outside is pink, however after cutting the tablet to reveal a white inside, I can see that the pink coating is very thin. I don’t know if such a thin coat would have any effect on the release time, but I will be careful while doing this and will ask my doctor. I’m going to research this exact medication (Bupropion HCL SR 150mg Tablet) to see if I can find anything on cutting them.
Couldn’t find anything that defended cutting Wellbutrin tablets. Somewhere online, I found a statement from the manufacturer that suggested they could be cut in half once before dosing, but that’s not very reassuring as I don’t see how cutting it more times would change anything? I’m going to stick to taking one, full 150mg tablet (SR - 12 hours) daily a few hours after breakfast for now. After a few weeks, I will decide if I should take the full, 300mg daily dose as prescribed by my doctor.
I’ve read a lot about not cutting them.
Anyway, Wellbutrin gave me one day (about 10
Days in on 100mg) where my libido and arousal were sky high. It was awesome. Sexual thoughts would not leave my brain. It was actually bizarre. But it only lasted about a day and never returned.
Keep us posted.
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Sorry to get back to you so late. I’ve had a lot of family issues. As far as receptor site damage goes, the older we get, the harder it can be to recover. Everyone’s different regarding their ability to recover at different ages but generally speaking, much younger does much better.
The phenomenon of brain health and recovery is complicated but can be best summarized by the term “neuroplasticity”. This is an ever expanding concept based initially on the empirical evidence in instances of people with severe brain damage recovering by forming new neural networks after entire areas of transmitters and/or receptor sites being completely wiped out.
After neuroscientists recognized this many decades ago, they began exploring how the impossible became possible again. Some of the most imperative functions which were damaged were overcome with perseverance after retraining. Many people were told they wouldn’t walk again, etc…and yet many have overcome these severe limitations.
Current SARM’s, thought to be safe at one time, are finding their way into the spotlight as Androgen damaging substances. As far as neurological endocrine functions go, I would bet money that many SARM’s are severely disruptive. We don’t fully understand steroids, anabolic or otherwise. We definitely definitely do NOT understand many SARM’s much at all. Steroids have been around since the 40’s and were still puzzled by many of their effects (Testosterone is one of them).
Could you have damaged your brain with SARM’s the way any other non anabolic/androgenic substance can? I would think that without a doubt you’ve altered your physiological functions with SARM’s. Can you recover naturally over time? A good deal of evidence says that you can…but time takes time and recovering from these substances is not an overnight ordeal. There are no quick fixes here, I can almost guarantee that. Testosterone is not a quick fix and was a last resort for me.
It’s taking as much time and more money to get my hormones “custom” balanced as it would to naturally recover from a SEVERELY altered state.
That being said, everyone is bio chemically unique. Some guys don’t recover from the gambit of drug use I’ve put myself through. Research on the long term effects of using SARM’s is very limited in science so I can’t honestly speak to their recovery rate or success percentages but I’ve fucked with a lot of unstudied drugs that radically had different biochemical effects, suffered through withdrawal, and recovered to a remarkable degree.
I believe my need for TRT is partially or entirely due to the latent affects of abusing my mind and body heavily for 15 years. I won’t dissuade or promote anyone seeking replacement therapy but I would advise them to get at least minimal lab work and read in depth about what they are getting into with TRT…it’s a whole other rabbit hole to go down and it’s lifelong.
I suggest reading up on neuroplasticity. The mind and body recover from absolutely remarkable damage.
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Thanks for the response, this has made me hopeful for the future.
Here is a post on another thread I found. The good news is I can still have sex to completion every day with the help of Cialis and Tyrosine/Wellbutrin. Only thing is that my actual sex drive is nowhere near what it used to be, like when I cycled LGD. I’m going to finish off the semester first because the girls at this school are wild ;), but over this summer I’m going to abstain for a long time to see if my dopamine receptors will repair themselves. Appreciate you sharing your experience.
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Yup exactly I’m similar in reasoning
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Did you ever take suboxone?
Sure did. That was an interesting substance to kick. Not nearly as intense as most opiates/opioids but it was a long kick. The worse thing I kicked was Methadone by far! A 2 gram a day habit of relatively pure heroin was probably the second worse as far as opiates go. What about you enackers?
I’m screwed on suboxone atm. Would love guidance bro. Pretty sure why I had to start Trt .
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