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Zap Branigan - Democrat?


#1

I am thinking of switching from Independent to Democrat so I can vote for Hillary in the PA primary.

I think she would be a better president than Obama and I think McCain has abetter chance of beating her. Win -win as far as I am concerned.

Thoughts?


#2

Of course you should. You do what’s in the best interest of your “team.” That’s the nice thing about Wisconsin. You’re not restricted by your registered party line in the primaries.


#3

In Texas you don’t have to be a registered anything to vote in the primary. I early voted Hillary for the same reasons you listed.


#4

How would you feel if she actually won in November?


#5

[quote]Uncle Gabby wrote:
How would you feel if she actually won in November?[/quote]

Shitty, but rather her than Obama. I obviously won’t vote for her in November.


#6

[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
Uncle Gabby wrote:
How would you feel if she actually won in November?

Shitty, but rather her than Obama. I obviously won’t vote for her in November.[/quote]

I voted for Obama in the primary here in VA, just because I loathed the thought of seeing Hillary win my state. I used to wonder what there was about her that caused such a negative reaction in some people, but I get it now. I’m fucking tired of her. I loathe the thought of seeing her run my country for the next four years, regardless of the kind of job she would do.

I know we’re supposed to vote based on reason, not emotion, but so far that’s all I got.


#7

I was watching Washington Journal on C-Span last week, and almost everyone who called in said that they were a registered, or “life long” republican who were going to switch affiliation and vote for Obama.

I wanted to punch my TV for every one of them, calling in and trying to get undecided republicans to join this stupid cult of Obama.


#8

Filthy politics!


#9

[quote]skaz05 wrote:
I was watching Washington Journal on C-Span last week, and almost everyone who called in said that they were a registered, or “life long” republican who were going to switch affiliation and vote for Obama.

I wanted to punch my TV for every one of them, calling in and trying to get undecided republicans to join this stupid cult of Obama.[/quote]

I’ve seen many other media reports of repubs doing this. I don’t think it is possible for one to contradict themselves any more than by switching over for Obama.


#10

[quote]tedro wrote:

I’ve seen many other media reports of repubs doing this. I don’t think it is possible for one to contradict themselves any more than by switching over for Obama.[/quote]

I think that is key - conservatives and Republicans loathe the Clintons, but switching over to vote for the most liberal Senator of 2007 seems like the worst of the ideas.

Most liberal Senator? Unvarnished left-wing agenda? Thinnest resume? Zero accomplishments in public life? A penchant for avoiding controversial decisions?

Hillary never looked so good. It is wild to believe the Clinton machine hasn’t done a better job of exposing Obama.


#11

[quote]thunderbolt23 wrote:
Hillary never looked so good. It is wild to believe the Clinton machine hasn’t done a better job of exposing Obama.
[/quote]

I am so glad someone pointed this out. I was thinking about this the other day because I was just baffled at how the Clintons, of all people, are having such a hard time stopping Obama. Limbaugh is doing a better job of exposing him than they are in that regard.

Anyway, I think that Obama’s skin color is his biggest asset in this race. No one DARE attack him for fear of being labeled a racist, and I think this is one of the thin lines that the Clintons have to walk.

But you are right, Hillary Clinton has never looked as good as she does now, and that is so tragic…


#12

super delegates your votes dont matter to them


#13

It’s a risky scheme. She could pull it off. But I think Osama is more electable so I guess go ahead.
It’s kind of like do you want shit or shit with nuts in it.
Hell I don’t know. We got crap in this election.


#14

[quote]skaz05 wrote:
thunderbolt23 wrote:
Hillary never looked so good. It is wild to believe the Clinton machine hasn’t done a better job of exposing Obama.

I am so glad someone pointed this out. I was thinking about this the other day because I was just baffled at how the Clintons, of all people, are having such a hard time stopping Obama. Limbaugh is doing a better job of exposing him than they are in that regard.

Anyway, I think that Obama’s skin color is his biggest asset in this race. No one DARE attack him for fear of being labeled a racist, and I think this is one of the thin lines that the Clintons have to walk.

…[/quote]

I think this is it exactly.


#15

[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
I am thinking of switching from Independent to Democrat so I can vote for Hillary in the PA primary.

I think she would be a better president than Obama and I think McCain has abetter chance of beating her. Win -win as far as I am concerned.

Thoughts?

[/quote]

Agree on point one, not so sure about the second one. Obama could be exposed in a big way against McCain. Hillary is a known quantity.


#16

[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
I am thinking of switching from Independent to Democrat so I can vote for Hillary in the PA primary.

I think she would be a better president than Obama and I think McCain has abetter chance of beating her. Win -win as far as I am concerned.

Thoughts?

[/quote]

I’ve had the same thoughts, with the Ohio primary coming up.

She wants to really ass rape the young people with her health care plan — having a 25 year old pay the same as an old guy like me. Young people are already subsidizing old people A LOT.

I’m going to vote for Obama in the primary, and then Libertarian in the general. I could never vote for McCain, ever.


#17

Oh no!! There’s a flaw in my plan…

"Seven of the Obama campaign�??s top 14 donors consist of officers and em­ployees of the same Wall Street firms charged time and again with looting the public and newly implicated in originat­ing and/or bundling fraudulently made mortgages. These latest frauds have left thousands of children in some of our largest minority communities coming home from school to see eviction notices and foreclosure signs nailed to their front doors. Those scars will last a lifetime.

These seven Wall Street firms are (in order of money given): Goldman Sachs, UBS AG, Lehman Brothers, JP Morgan Chase, Citigroup, Morgan Stanley and Credit Suisse. There is also a large hedge fund, Citadel Investment Group, which is a major source of fee income to Wall Street. There are five large corporate law firms that are also registered lobbyists; and one is a corporate law firm that is no longer a registered lobbyist but does legal work for Wall Street. The cumula­tive total of these 14 contributors through February 1, 2008, was $2,872,128, and we�??re still in the primary season.

But hasn�??t Senator Obama repeatedly told us in ads and speeches and debates that he wasn�??t taking money from reg­istered lobbyists? Hasn�??t the press given him a free pass on this statement?

Barack Obama, speaking in Greenville, South Carolina, on January 22, 2008:

�??Washington lobbyists haven�??t funded my campaign, they won�??t run my White House, and they will not drown out the voices of working Americans when I am president�??.

http://zcommunications.org/znet/viewArticle/16601

All three of the major candidates are Satanists…damn…