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http://nypost.com/2013/10/08/us-adults-are-dumber-than-the-average-human/

Yeah, why we weren’t we taught ‘‘Vedic Math’’ in School for example is beyond me, you can also graduate
High School without ANY education on Laws or your BASIC rights beyond the scope of the Constitution and Bill Of Rights,
and low/no risk BASIC saving and Investing strategies that would virtually guarantee EVERY High School graduate of being Millionaires
before the age of 50.

This is what happens when you reward mediocrity and allow liberals and unions to control our educational system.

[quote]angry chicken wrote:
This is what happens when you reward mediocrity and allow liberals and unions to control our educational system.[/quote]

I thought Bush didn’t leave any child behind?

[quote]angry chicken wrote:
This is what happens when you reward mediocrity and allow liberals and unions to control our educational system.[/quote]

LIBERALS! LIBERALS DID IT! LIBERALS!

People are stupid. Liberals are stupid. Conservatives are stupid. People are stupid. If you think this is the fault of one particular ideology, you might want to consider that much of the power over education in the United States is held at the state and local level, and then you might want to have a look at how great of a job red states do in the rankings.

The reporter who wrote this is mathematically-challenged himself.

Averages are near meaningless, especially in the USA which is very diverse.

To be blunt, the IQ (or whatever metric you want to use) in the USA is not on a clean bell curve, but is rather bi-modal, with 2 modes — one above the solidly above the international average and one below.

Not the case in Japan or Holland or other countries that are not as diverse.

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]angry chicken wrote:
This is what happens when you reward mediocrity and allow liberals and unions to control our educational system.[/quote]

I thought Bush didn’t leave any child behind?[/quote]

Did he leave liberals and Unions in charge of our educational system? Oh, that’s right, he did.

[quote]smh_23 wrote:

[quote]angry chicken wrote:
This is what happens when you reward mediocrity and allow liberals and unions to control our educational system.[/quote]

LIBERALS! LIBERALS DID IT! LIBERALS!

People are stupid. Liberals are stupid. Conservatives are stupid. People are stupid. If you think this is the fault of one particular ideology, you might want to consider that much of the power over education in the United States is held at the state and local level, and then you might want to have a look at how great of a job red states do in the rankings.[/quote]

I don’t really care. I choose to live in Northern Virginia where my son attends a high school that is ranked in the top 100 high schools in the United States. He also follows MY curruculum and has been taking AP courses since he was in 10th grade.

I agree that being poor, stupid and ignorant knows no political affiliation. But when you couple poor, stupid and ignorant with Liberal ideas such as tenure and when the Unions make it imossible to fire bad teachers, THAT’s when things go downhill fast.

[quote]smh_23 wrote:

[quote]angry chicken wrote:
This is what happens when you reward mediocrity and allow liberals and unions to control our educational system.[/quote]

LIBERALS! LIBERALS DID IT! LIBERALS!

People are stupid. Liberals are stupid. Conservatives are stupid. People are stupid. If you think this is the fault of one particular ideology, you might want to consider that much of the power over education in the United States is held at the state and local level, and then you might want to have a look at how great of a job red states do in the rankings.[/quote]

Red state rankings have to be liberals fault though.

If it’s a problem in the United States of America you can be damn sure Republicans have never had anything to do with it.

[quote]JEATON wrote:
http://nypost.com/2013/10/08/us-adults-are-dumber-than-the-average-human/
[/quote]

Gosh I wonder why.

Americans watch more television than any other people on earth besides the British.

We spend more as a nation on video games than the other nine nations in the top ten combined.

Our school year is sixty days shorter than that of Japan, and eighty days shorter than that of China.

We use calculator apps to do simple arithmetic that primary school students can do in their heads in Asia.

We do not know history.

We do not know geography.

We do not know science.

We do not know philosophy.

We know professional sports trivia and celebrity gossip.

We like shopping and food, and watch television shows about shopping and food.

We spend more time watching porn than we do having sex.

We disdain the teaching profession, intellectuals and intelligence itself.

We are the first empire in existence to have made a virtue out of stupidity.

De Toqueville identified it in the 19th century, but the American public is exponentially dumber now compared to what it was in his day.

Hell, the American public is dumber now than it was when I left for Japan 20 years ago.

Idiocracy. Watch it, if you haven’t yet. It is chillingly prophetic.

[quote]Varqanir wrote:

[quote]JEATON wrote:
http://nypost.com/2013/10/08/us-adults-are-dumber-than-the-average-human/
[/quote]

Gosh I wonder why.

Americans watch more television than any other people on earth besides the British.

We spend more as a nation on video games than the other nine nations in the top ten combined.

Our school year is sixty days shorter than that of Japan, and eighty days shorter than that of China.

We use calculator apps to do simple arithmetic that primary school students can do in their heads in Asia.

We do not know history.

We do not know geography.

We do not know science.

We do not know philosophy.

We know professional sports trivia and celebrity gossip.

We like shopping and food, and watch television shows about shopping and food.

We spend more time watching porn than we do having sex.

We disdain the teaching profession, intellectuals and intelligence itself.

We are the first empire in existence to have made a virtue out of stupidity.

De Toqueville identified it in the 19th century, but the American public is exponentially dumber now compared to what it was in his day.

Hell, the American public is dumber now than it was when I left for Japan 20 years ago.

Idiocracy. Watch it, if you haven’t yet. It is chillingly prophetic.

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Too many big words for me. If it’s not too much to ask, could you dumb it down some?

‘‘Idiocracy’’ is funny and ‘‘chilling’’…What a masterpiece that movie is.
The Future in the old ‘Time Machine’ movie was more prophetic I think as far as ‘courtesy has died’, that last line
Rod Taylor sez pretty much nails it too.

[quote]angry chicken wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]angry chicken wrote:
This is what happens when you reward mediocrity and allow liberals and unions to control our educational system.[/quote]

I thought Bush didn’t leave any child behind?[/quote]

Did he leave liberals and Unions in charge of our educational system? Oh, that’s right, he did.[/quote]
No, because schools have something called a Board of Education. It makes policy decisions and it bases those decisions on what parents (who are always ready to call a lawyer about something) want.

[quote]thethirdruffian wrote:
The reporter who wrote this is mathematically-challenged himself.

Averages are near meaningless, especially in the USA which is very diverse.

To be blunt, the IQ (or whatever metric you want to use) in the USA is not on a clean bell curve, but is rather bi-modal, with 2 modes — one above the solidly above the international average and one below.

Not the case in Japan or Holland or other countries that are not as diverse.[/quote]

Very good point. Thanks for the input.

The school district I live in (not the one I attended when I was in school) just spent $1 Billion on iPads for every single student. The pilot program showed that after 1 month, 30% of those iPads are “missing.”

[quote]thethirdruffian wrote:
The reporter who wrote this is mathematically-challenged himself.
[/quote]
yup.

[quote]
Averages are near meaningless, especially in the USA which is very diverse.

To be blunt, the IQ (or whatever metric you want to use) in the USA is not on a clean bell curve, but is rather bi-modal, with 2 modes — one above the solidly above the international average and one below.

Not the case in Japan or Holland or other countries that are not as diverse.[/quote]

Correct. They don’t have Walmarts in Japan or Holland. They don’t know what stupid looks like. But I will put the best and the brightest from the US against any of theirs.

I work with a bunch of the supposedly well educated, doing calculus in 6th grade Indians and I am duly unimpressed. Maybe they just peak young, but they sure as hell aren’t smarter than anyone else… Contrarally, we are constantly fixing their crap…
We tried the outsourcing thing, it cost the company $200 million dollars and 10 years before they finally realized it was hopeless and chose to accept the loss of a dead project.

[quote]MaximusB wrote:
The school district I live in (not the one I attended when I was in school) just spent $1 Billion on iPads for every single student. The pilot program showed that after 1 month, 30% of those iPads are “missing.”[/quote]

I am speechless.

[quote]dmaddox wrote:

[quote]MaximusB wrote:
The school district I live in (not the one I attended when I was in school) just spent $1 Billion on iPads for every single student. The pilot program showed that after 1 month, 30% of those iPads are “missing.”[/quote]

I am speechless.
[/quote]

Each iPad cost about $700 each, which included the educational software and security measures (which were circumvented by the school valedictorian and shared with the other kids within just one week).

[quote]MaximusB wrote:

[quote]dmaddox wrote:

[quote]MaximusB wrote:
The school district I live in (not the one I attended when I was in school) just spent $1 Billion on iPads for every single student. The pilot program showed that after 1 month, 30% of those iPads are “missing.”[/quote]

I am speechless.
[/quote]

Each iPad cost about $700 each, which included the educational software and security measures (which were circumvented by the school valedictorian and shared with the other kids within just one week). [/quote]

Read about that. Ironically (?) the local school board here did the same thing last year and this place is as conservative as it gets. It’s also MUCH smaller so I think they have had more success with the rollout. I do think they have had their share of issues though with breaking and theft. I don’t remember hearing about anything catastrophic though and they still have them so it must have went well enough to keep here.

Why were the iPads 700 aren’t those like 500 retail and you’d think a discount for buying in bulk for a school?