My initial experience w. the keto diets came from reading Duchaine’s Bodyopus book. I really fine tuned it w. Lyle’s book. He goes into detail on carb-up amounts, how much potassium/mag/etc. and whatnot. I just started tinkering w. lipoic acid a long time ago just from knowing that it was a glucose disposal agent, but I have recently been experimenting w. much higher doses. Lyle suggests in general anywhere from 1200 to 2000 mg but others on here, particularly during carb-ups advocate higher amounts to hasten ketosis after carbups. Minerals and electrolytes are excreted in much higher amts. on keto diets so it is definitely important to get some magnesium and potassium, and obviously a good multivitamin. One thing I would like to bring up again is the Fat Fast. It does not absolutely have to be followed to the letter. I think that if you skip the carb-up your fat to protein ratio becomes even more important, and I don’t necessarily think you need that low of a calorie level unless you are on a super strict deadline to make weight. Personally if you skip the carb-up I would go with a less harsh calorie regimen such as 12x bodyweight and just get approx. .9 to 1 g. protein/lb bw and get the rest from good ol’ fat, preferably flax, Udo’s, fish oil, etc. You can still lose fat quickly w. an approach like this. As far as Bodyopus goes, I think the carb level is way, way too high for the non-genetically gifted person (good insulin sensitivity, thyroid and whatnot). You’ll have to find what works best for you but I do very well keeping my carbup to 24 hrs, and I do get up every two hrs. to eat although an alternative approach is to consume a higher amt. of carbs w. fiber and fat before bed and just sleep normally. For those of you who have to have the details, Lyle’s book is HIGHLY recommended. He gives you calorie levels, protein and fat amounts, sample workouts, carb-up amounts, certain substances that can interfere w. ketosis- the whole thing. He even has a plan for someone who is doing a BB contest. It’s pretty easy to understand too.