[quote]cyruseven75 wrote:
[quote]dre1986 wrote:
[quote]hungry4more wrote:
[quote]dre1986 wrote:
[quote]jake_j_m wrote:
Thanks a ton for this article. Always love what Yates has to say. In fact, come to think of it, is there anything Yates has said which has even been disproved? Seems like he seems on point with pretty much everything exercise selection/form wise (not really talking about HIT etc.)[/quote]
First off let me say Yates is a legend.
Right, now the patriotic bits been done, to answer your questions, yes.
He ran a small seminar a while back whereby he was discussing chest training. In the seminar he proceeded to advice everyone that when training the chest it was impossible, anatomically, to target a single portion of the chest with any sort of effectivness. Ie, if you want to hit upper chest and you’re doing incline bench to do this, it wont work. He firmly believes that you cannot target a particular portion of the chest. He also claims that doing decline bench presses are the best exercise for chest, as they offer the most ROM.
I got caught hook, line and sinker when i saw the seminar until i got put straight by a couple of guys on here and looked a bit more into the anatomy and the fact that there are multiple heads to the pec blah blah etc…[/quote]
Not sure if serious…[/quote]
Yes, i am. [/quote]
jesus man…there are not “multiple heads” to the pec. Yates is correct you cannot truly target the heads hehehehe. major minor of the pec involves where they insert regarding angle and depth of the muscle, e.g. sitting under the surface of the skin…meaning…can i touch it?
feel my biceps, they are really pumped vs feel my subscapularis muscles (rotator cuff). see the difference?
Yates saying you cannot specificaly target the dual functioning muscles of the pecs is true, during pressing or fly movements the entire muscle is “in use.”
he’s simply saying the pecs are not like the triceps, or better yet, the individually target(able) heads of the deltoids.
Yates likes the bang for your buck you get from decline press.
BY ALL FUCKING MEANS THOUGH, training inclines does help the upper chest, think of an electromagnetic “Back to the Future” type gaget hooked up to your chest and a fancy computer monitor, add lights and beep beep beep things in your mind if it helps. the upper chest would/will likely light up and beep w/ more vigor during upper chest work…but the whole muscle is activated.
Silly, silly, silly…this is a good thread.[/quote]
many EMG studies stated that incline bench doesn’t involve the clavicular portion of pec (upper pec) more than flat/decline but with a narrow grip.
incline bench involves more the anterior part of delts (compared to flat/decline bench),
decline bench involves more tris than front delts (compared to incline).
EMG -after all- shows that decline bench recruits more pec fibers than incline/flat bench.
on the other hand ,IF was possible to target just one part of pec WHY top pros sometimes gets a weak upper chest (Cutler,Yates and Centopani)???
Haven’t they tried (during the years) to develop that area?
yes ,they did but it’s not possible to target just upper-medium-low pec…
end of story; add load (discks LOL) to the bar,use the head and have fun.