[quote]Pemdas wrote:
Mega Newb wrote:
95lbs on your bench and 100lbs on your squat and deadlift does not = 45lbs of muscle.
If you gained 45lbs then some is definitely fat, but thats not to say that you haven’t made great progress.
However, that progress alone doesn’t say much for the program, if your new to lifting you could have done better than that with 5x5 or something simple like that.
What are your current lifts?
Better than 100lbs on bench and 200lbs on squat and dl. Are you kidding me? Even for a newb that is amazing progress no matter what program did it. And for an athlete WS4SB is way better then 5x5. [/quote]
freshmen at my school train over summer for football, most average about 100lbs on their squat in the 10-12 weeks, going from not doing deadlifts to doing deadlifts can easily be 100lbs in 10-12 weeks and when you first start benching you can easily put tons of weight on your bench.
Learning proper form alone with a few weeks to get used to it is good for close to 50lbs on the big 3 when your new.
My second year of training I started squats and deadlifts, went from 350-500 dead and 225-455 or something like that on squat and I wasnt consistent with my training.
100lbs on each lift is hardly amazing progress when your new, I would say average at BEST for a healthy male. I would be more inclined to say its not very good progress for 1 year when your new than I would be to say its good progress.
And WS4SB isnt “better” for a athlete than 5x5, most “athletes” in highschool barley lift. And would do better increasing their basic lifts with a little bit higher volume than west side for skiny bastards.
When you squat 275, dead 365, and bench 245 chances are you are better off just training bench than you are doing board presses with bands. And just squating and deadlifting than you are doing saftey squat bar goodmornings and super wide box squats with tons of chains and band tension.