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Worse ED After Starting TRT


#85

Does anyone experience agitation and irritability for the first 24 hours after injection? For some reason I feel like arguing with people and a little on edge within a few hours of injection and it lasts for a day. Then after that period of time I normalize and become happy and balanced.


#86

It depends on if you are in the middle of a protocol change which then takes 6 weeks until a stable state. If not on a new protocol it would mean the dosage is too high and comes down days later to a more comfortable level.

It sounds like your injecting large infrequent doses. If you shared all your labs it would be helpful, if you have any.


#87

Unfortunately don’t get any labs back till September. And yup it’s only testosterone and psa LOL. I’ve been trying to find a better doc in my area but unfortunately there are none. Been to 3 already and I have the best of the bunch. I’m doing 25 mg eod sub q. But yeah I just did switch to this protocol so I’ll wait the 6 weeks to see how I feel.


#88

Actually got that yesterday but lasts less than 12 hours. You really don’t know if it’s from injection or maybe it’s from your levels being low on your injection day.


#89

Well I haven’t got bloods yet to know where I sit. Not that it matters because my doctor only tests for testosterone anyway, but I gotta say I feel like a million bucks. I’ve been doing 25 mg EOD. I was experiencing some water retention and mistook it for Estradiol issues, so I took a quarter pill of arimidex and within 2 days I was crashed. So it’s safe to assume I won’t need an AI on this protocol. ( I Cant get sensitive assay where I live anyway.)


#90

I would first confirm the low estrogen, when I first took Arimidex I thought I had crashed my E2 also, but it was just my body metabolizing the medication for the first time. It felt very much like I crashed my estrogen, it was difficult to keep my eyes open and I was very tired.

In fact my estrogen is still on the higher end even after increasing the dosage to .25 mg EOD. I would advise you not to take the AI unless you have symptoms and lab showing high estrogen.


#91

Yeah for sure. It could be that I’m hyper sensitive to arimidex. I also lost all my energy and lost all sex drive for like a week. Normalizing now and feeling really good. I’ll see if I can get an Estradiol test even though it’s not sensitive. At 25 mg eod, with no hcg and little body fat that I probably won’t need one at all. What’s your protocol?


#92

My protocol is 20mg EOD .250 anastrozole EOD. Without the AI my estrogen would be high and I would be symptomatic.


#93

I’m assuming you inject sub q? How king did it take you on that protocol to warrant an AI? And do you use hcg?


#94

I see no reason to use HCG, fertility isn’t a concern for me right now. My E2 sensitive was 70 pg/mL and is worse for the fact I’m low SHBG.


#95

How long did it take your estrogens to rise after being on trt?


#96

Who else is severely affected sexually by liquor since starting trt? Before trt, alcohol would often help me in the bedroom. Since starting trt, if I have even 2 beers, I might as well not even have a dick cause it becomes useless. And it stays that way until the alcohol is out of my system. About 24 hours. I mean, clearly it’s my body telling me to quit, so thats fine, but I’m wondering why it has this affect.


#97

I dont drink very often. Hardly ever really. A few weeks ago I had a bunch of margaritas and experienced the same thing. It was dead to the world. I was pretty surprised. I was not drunk. It kinda lingered the next day a little and went away. Odd.


#98

Exactly same here. Super weird. I don’t think having 3 drinks would have THAT much of an affect on estradiol levels to cause this. Gotta be something else


#99

ANyone on this board with persistence side affects from saw palmetto or finasteride figure out how to dial in trt right?


#100

Hey guys: my doctor isnt great and I want to come off of trt until I find a new one. I’ve been on for roughly 2 months I think. I haven’t been on hcg. Would you suggest adding hcg for a couple weeks till I fill up then moving to clomid or nolva? Or should I be just fine with clomid or nolva


#102

Anyone? Just wondering if need to blast hcg for a couple weeks before coming off or just clomid will be fine. I’ve been on for about 2 months but need to come off


#103

Why don’t you switch over to your new doctor and see what he/she says?


#104

There are no doctors in my area that I can go to. If I wait till I could go to one, I will be completely shutdown. And I don’t wanna stay on test any longer and make restarting harder. I should have never got on in the first place I think. I’m gonna try and train hard and get my natural levels up


#105

Ok, that is too bad. I’d come off and go with hCG for six weeks.