I am hoping you all can help me gain information about my husband’s choices. I am very supportive of his work-outs/body building, I am just worried that he doesn’t know what he is taking or the possible effects -
He works out very intensely (6-7 days a week, goes 5+days between body parts) and has been since January (he has 7% body fat(maybe less now, that was a few months ago), has gained 20 pounds of muscle since january), he takes no-explode before his workouts and is also supplementing with SUS500 and HAVOC. He has been on the SUS500 about 5 weeks and recently added the HAVOC. I don’t know how much he is taking of each. He isn’t taking anything else with it and didn’t take anything before hand. I don’t think he has any plans to take anything after, but I know he is planning on taking the SUS500 for 8 weeks.
I have read caffeine is not a good idea, is this true?
In addition, he survives on protein shakes from the gym and at home. He may eat one meal a day, usually a meat and a salad or sweet potato - he won’t eat any carb really, maybe a healthy cereal on occasion…
I am worried about his overall health and potential side effects…
Anybody willing to give their thoughts-
His diet seems very poor.
His choice of prohomrone is also poor.
NO-explode is fine, its just caffeine, creatine, and arginine, none of which are dangerous.
SUS500 is a progestin, and is similar to birthcontrol pills.
Avoid progestin based prohormones, they are the most dangerous and untested of all the prohormones.
Havoc on the other hand, is one of the safest, and well designed prohormones on the market currently.
Havoc is methylated and should not be taken for more than 6 weeks as it is liver toxic, and he should not drink alcohol of any kind while using this product, as it will place more stress on the liver.
At this moment hes ok, SUS500 is not methylated, and although its a progestin, hes old enough that it is not likely to do any permanent damage to his system.
He NEEDS to use an SERM for a PCT when he comes off the prohormones. THIS IS IMPORTANT.
If he does not use an SERM, he is going to crash his HPTA, his sex drive and testosterone levels will plummet, hes going to get tired, and feel weak.
He will lose a fair amount of muscle.
He also risks estrogen rebound, his E2 levels probably will spike, which could lead to gyno (man breasts), prostate swelling, hair loss, etc.
What he needs is Nolva, tamoxifen citrate, it is a commonly avaliable SERM, it will restart his own natural testosterone production and will prevent the estrogen spike from having any actual effects by blocking the receptor sites.
It is a breast cancer drug, and is not legally avaliable for human consumption. YOU can buy it however for “research purposes” for “animal testing”.
We can provide you with sites set up specifically for these “research purposes”
He will still experience HAIRLOSS even with an SERM, it will not be permanent unless he is predisposed to male pattern baldness. Bald men on his mother’s side of the family is the most common indicator, in which case the hairloss will be permanent.
If he isnt prone to MPB, then the minor shedding will quickly subside and his hair will return to normal.
The shedding is caused by hormone fluctuations, will happen upon cessation of the prohormones whether or not he uses an SERM for PCT.
In short, he needs to do more research on prohomrones, we have a prohromone general info guide in the top of the steroid section.
It outlines different types, and their uses.
Stay aware from anything progestin or progestrone based, they are terrible drugs.
Use something based on safer, and better understood, pharmaceutical steroids.
Hdrol, superdrol, pheraplex, havoc, etc are all good choices.
You are right to worry about his health, he did no reserach of any kind.
He needs to choose different drugs, he needs to aquire an SERM (we can provide sources for these, and proper usage protocols), and he needs to rework his diet and probably his training.
Feel free to private message me if you have more questions.
There is still plenty of time to salvage his mistakes. He hasn’t done anything too damaging yet.
He will need an SERM ASAP though.