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This motherfucker should be shot as soon as he steps on American soil.

President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad (Iran Asshole) has requested to visit Ground Zero when he makes his trip to New York next week. Maybe Osama Bin Laden can come with him and take a tour of the White House. He should be bitched slapped for even thinking up this bullshit. Hopefully his plan will crash on his way over.

Also:

http://www.boston.com/news/politics/politicalintelligence/2007/09/mccain_says_ira.html

This douche is going to be allowed to speak at Columbia University, real classy act by them, maybe they can rename their sports teams the Fighting Terrorists.

Iran doesn’t support Al Quaeda and anti-American terrorism nearly as much as Saudia Arabia, and they’re here all the time. Why didn’t Bush shoot the leader of the Saudi’s during one of their many luncheons?

[quote]dk44 wrote:

This motherfucker should be shot as soon as he steps on American soil.

President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad (Iran Asshole) has requested to visit Ground Zero when he makes his trip to New York next week. Maybe Osama Bin Laden can come with him and take a tour of the White House. He should be bitched slapped for even thinking up this bullshit. Hopefully his plan will crash on his way over.[/quote]

Ahmadinejad had nothing to do with 9/11 and if Bin Laden took a tour of the White House, they still wouldn’t catch him.

Iran most active in countering terror
23 May 2007
A recent statement issued by the UN Security Council (UNSC) says Iran is the most active country in countering terrorism…

The UN statement stressed that the report sent by Iran comes even as the governments of the US and Israel both declined to provide their own reports on anti-terrorism activities.
http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=10735&sectionid=351020101

NYC Unveils 9/11 Memorial Hole
September 11, 2006
NEW YORK - Days before the fifth anniversary of the destruction of New York’s World Trade Center by terrorists, city officials gathered on the site where the Twin Towers once stood to dedicate the newly completed 9/11 Memorial Hole.

“From the wreckage and ashes of the World Trade Center, we have created a recess in the ground befitting the American spirit,” said New York Governor George Pataki from a cinderblock-and-plastic-bucket-supported plywood platform near the Hole’s precipice. “This vast chasm, dug at the very spot where the gleaming Twin Towers once rose to the sky, is a symbol of what we can accomplish if we work together.”

Pataki then cut a ceremonial ribbon to release a giant blue plastic tarpaulin, reportedly the largest of its kind, which fluttered and snapped while slowly settling into the detritus and mud at the bottom of the 70-foot Hole, drawing a long, tired sigh of resignation from the estimated crowd of 50,000 who had assembled to watch and shake their heads.

Begun only days after the 2001 attacks, the Hole covers almost the entire footprint of the original World Trade Center, contains over 16 acres of empty space, and is visible as far away as Hoboken, NJ. Over $175 million has been spent on the Hole’s development, and thousands of pages of proposals and designs concerning the site in which the Hole was excavated were reviewed in over 2,800 hours of meetings. Work crews comprising more than 7,500 welders, equipment operators, excavators, and other construction specialists spent long, often unpaid shifts in its depths.

“These five years have been admittedly difficult,” Pataki said. “Inevitably, we heard from the naysayers who said we would never accomplish anything on this site. To those people, I invite them to gaze down at this magnificent pit if they want proof of New Yorkers’ dedication to this project.”

The Hole contains several symbolic features: A massive reinforced-concrete foundation known before 9/11 as the “Bathtub” now serves as the renamed “Remembrance Facing.” According to official memorial literature, a gently declining plane into the heart of the memorial stands for the gradual but steady passage of time, and permits construction vehicles to enter and exit the site. Chain-link fences symbolize the present but nonetheless scalable barriers between different cultures. Lastly, the “Eternal Puddle,” perhaps the Hole’s most notable and arresting, as well as bottommost, feature, allows visitors to reflect on the tragedy, while the rainwater-and-seepage-fed Puddle itself reflects muddy swirls and oil slicks.

Officials did not immediately explain the significance of the ubiquitous yellow “Keep Back” tape present at the site.

Pataki refused to take sole credit for the Hole’s completion, instead congratulating former New York City Mayor Rudolph Giuliani and current Mayor Mike Bloomberg, saying awareness of the World Trade Center site as a political symbol was important in ensuring the future of the Hole. Pataki also praised The Port Authority Of New York And New Jersey, "whose expert management of the site saw to it that nothing would obstruct the Hole once commuter-train service was restored.

The governor also thanked site developer and leaseholder Larry Silverstein, whose “keen business sense and stubborn desire for the area to be profitable was instrumental in this effort.”

Pataki expressed deep admiration for the families of the victims, saying that “their endless and highly vocal input about the memorial were crucial to making the Hole possible in time for the fifth anniversary of the attacks.”

“And of course, I commend President George W. Bush, whose administration provided the kind of ample, unquestioning financial support to the rebuilding project for which they are famous, from New York to New Orleans,” Pataki said. “Mr. President, you as much as anyone have made the dream of this hole a reality.”

The ceremony concluded with a somber wreath-laying ceremony at the Grand Scaffold by former New York City Police Commissioner Bernard Kerek.

“Let this circle of flowers–brief, beautiful, and too soon gone–symbolize the respect we have shown for the memories of those innocents who lost their lives on that sorrowful morning by creating this great hole,” said the Reverend Charles Bourne of Lower Manhattan’s Trinity Chapel as the flowers sank into the brown, debris-strewn runoff at the bottom of the cavity. “I firmly believe, as does every person here, that this deep, empty hole has come to stand not only for the New York City of today, but also for the transformation of the entire United States since Sept. 11, 2001.”
http://www.theonion.com/content/news/nyc_unveils_9_11_memorial_hole

[quote]Beowolf wrote:
Iran doesn’t support Al Quaeda and anti-American terrorism nearly as much as Saudia Arabia, and they’re here all the time. Why didn’t Bush shoot the leader of the Saudi’s during one of their many luncheons?[/quote]

Exactly. dk44, another bright shining light of erudition and insight on this forum.

[quote]Beowolf wrote:
Iran doesn’t support Al Quaeda and anti-American terrorism nearly as much as Saudia Arabia, and they’re here all the time. Why didn’t Bush shoot the leader of the Saudi’s during one of their many luncheons?[/quote]

I agree, fuck Saudi Arabia. People always point the finger at Iran and Syria (beating up on poor little Israel :rolleyes) but forget that 19 of 21 hijackers on 9/11 were Saudi.

Those sand pounders are the real threat, IMO.

Bin Laden goes to APEC

Bin Laden tours Australia

[quote]dk44 wrote:

This motherfucker should be shot as soon as he steps on American soil.

President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad (Iran Asshole) has requested to visit Ground Zero when he makes his trip to New York next week. Maybe Osama Bin Laden can come with him and take a tour of the White House. He should be bitched slapped for even thinking up this bullshit. Hopefully his plan will crash on his way over.[/quote]
You’re insane.

[quote]gatesoftanhauser wrote:
I agree, fuck Saudi Arabia. People always point the finger at Iran and Syria (beating up on poor little Israel :rolleyes) but forget that 19 of 21 hijackers on 9/11 were Saudi.

Those sand pounders are the real threat, IMO.[/quote]

Exactly what Bin Laden wanted you to think.

[quote]dk44 wrote:

This motherfucker should be shot as soon as he steps on American soil.

President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad (Iran Asshole) has requested to visit Ground Zero when he makes his trip to New York next week. Maybe Osama Bin Laden can come with him and take a tour of the White House. He should be bitched slapped for even thinking up this bullshit. Hopefully his plan will crash on his way over.[/quote]

Damn, this post is dumb as hell.

[quote]Inner Hulk wrote:
dk44 wrote:

This motherfucker should be shot as soon as he steps on American soil.

President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad (Iran Asshole) has requested to visit Ground Zero when he makes his trip to New York next week. Maybe Osama Bin Laden can come with him and take a tour of the White House. He should be bitched slapped for even thinking up this bullshit. Hopefully his plan will crash on his way over.
You’re insane.[/quote]

You’d think he’d figure out that this would only cause more people to hate us and grow up wishing to kill themselves in a glorious death by killing thousands of us huh?

Apparently the general consensus among “republicans”(quoted because they aren’t really republicans) is that the best way to combat America’s global image and to thwart terrorism is to invade, bomb, kill, and instill our preferred form of government…which is basically terrorism.

How anyone can think that MORE presence and MORE soldiers in the middle east does anything except solidify the image of the US in the ME and increase the amount of terrorists is beyond me. Pure, unfiltered, 100% stupidity.

[quote]Gkhan wrote:
gatesoftanhauser wrote:
I agree, fuck Saudi Arabia. People always point the finger at Iran and Syria (beating up on poor little Israel :rolleyes) but forget that 19 of 21 hijackers on 9/11 were Saudi.

Those sand pounders are the real threat, IMO.

Exactly what Bin Laden wanted you to think.[/quote]

I don’t give him that much credit. The man is no genius. Influential and wealthy? Yes. Intelligent? Not really.

[quote]Gkhan wrote:
gatesoftanhauser wrote:
I agree, fuck Saudi Arabia. People always point the finger at Iran and Syria (beating up on poor little Israel :rolleyes) but forget that 19 of 21 hijackers on 9/11 were Saudi.

Those sand pounders are the real threat, IMO.

Exactly what Bin Laden wanted you to think.[/quote]

Are you challenging the fact that the bulk of money poured into terrorist activities is of Saudi origin? Or are you just throwing silly rhetoric?

I love the way you all rebuke each others comments with “you’re stupid” … real intelligent … anyways, Ahmadenijad is an oppressive dictator who denies the holocaust and if he had his way would love see America and Israel wiped off the face of the Earth.

In my opinion he wanted to visit ground zero no to honor American dead but to honor his own horde of freedom-hating followers but then again, that’s just my opinion. Now if I were the president of the Columbia University I wouldn’t have invited this dangerous, ignorant man to speak at my University, never mind at my ELKS club rally.

But since I’m clearly no the president of such a University I hope to GOD that those kids up there don’g treat Mr. Ahmadenijad with the same disresepct they showed when the man who formed the Minute Men to combat illegal immigration spoke at their wacky school, with complete disrespect and ignorance …

we may think very low of the leader of Iran, but at least show the son of a bitch that we’re classier than he is and uphold our rights to everyone.

And I hope none of the questioners ask him soft ball questions and really ask him some great questions that not only force him into a postion that he’s not used to given his own policy of limited speech in his own country but also portrays to him just how strongly our “free speech” law is assimilated into our own way of thinking. Just my 2 pennies

I also liked the way the focus shifted from Ahmadenijad to the Saudi’s … way to stay on topic fellas … while we’re at it lets compare oranges and asparagus

[quote]lixy wrote:
Gkhan wrote:
gatesoftanhauser wrote:
I agree, fuck Saudi Arabia. People always point the finger at Iran and Syria (beating up on poor little Israel :rolleyes) but forget that 19 of 21 hijackers on 9/11 were Saudi.

Those sand pounders are the real threat, IMO.

Exactly what Bin Laden wanted you to think.

Are you challenging the fact that the bulk of money poured into terrorist activities is of Saudi origin? Or are you just throwing silly rhetoric?[/quote]

Just silly rhetoric, actually. But think about it. What could Bin Laden gain by driving a wedge between the US and Saudi Arabia? Once doing so, he could strengthen his influence in the country as he is currently doing in Pakistan and wage his war against the Saudi Royals. I think that by using Saudis in his attack on the US he thought that the US would pull back their support for the regime.

[quote]polo77j wrote:
I also liked the way the focus shifted from Ahmadenijad to the Saudi’s … way to stay on topic fellas … while we’re at it lets compare oranges and asparagus[/quote]

That may be the agenda. Make the Iranians look like saints while demonizing the Saudis.

[quote]polo77j wrote:
anyways, Ahmadenijad is an oppressive dictator who denies the holocaust [/quote]

He challenges the figures, not denies the occurence of the event. It may be a nuance, but it’s quite an important thing to note.

Would he now? Are you psychic?

More importantly, how would he go about wiping nuclear powers “off the face of the Earth”?

Nothing wrong with sharing your opinion, but try substantiating your arguments next time.

You call the 9/11 crew “his own horde of freedom-hating followers” and yet, fail to realize that they have absolutely nothing to do with him or Iran. But tell me, do you think people blow up planes because they “hate your freedoms”? What exactly is it that’s bugging them in your opinion? The freedom to pick toppings at a Pizza Hut?

Mahmoud is dangerous to whom? And why do you think he’s ignorant? I don’t know if you’re aware, but the guy holds a Ph.D.

I think very low of him as well, I just don’t consider him dangerous nor ignorant. Contrasted with Bush, the man’s a pacifist and a genius.

The 1st amendment is something you should be very proud about. Make sure you keep defending it and, never take it for granted.

[quote]Gkhan wrote:
Just silly rhetoric, actually.[/quote]

Yeah, I figured.

Just so you know, that was a rhetorical question I asked.