Woodrow Wilson, Worst President in History

Eh, what’s the point…

[quote]orion wrote:
Well, in that case, lets hear it for William Henry Harrison, who had the decency of dying unceremonously of pneumonia just 32 into office.

He indeed was a shining example to be emulated, alas, few elected politicians have the intestinal fortitude.

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Orion you crazy coot…I don’t think people are getting your joke.

LOL.

If for no other reason(s), and there are a multitude of reasons for their rule to be a stellar period in time…

von List

von Liebenfels

and

von Mackensen.

[quote]orion wrote:
Now some might say that Woodrow Wilson was a disgrace for dragging the US into the War to end all Wars, snicker, or imprisoning dissenters, dispending habeas corpus and other irrelevant shit like that, but the cause for his eternal damnation is of course a different one.

By allowing the production of the automobile, he personally, PERSONALLY, destroyed the horse buggy industry, with all the small companies surrounding it, like the ones that mades whips, or cleaned the horse manure off the road.

Discuss.[/quote]

Luddite!

What happened to Lincoln being the worst prez ever for ridding the American people of their silly, litle notion called self-determination…?

A list of the worst presidents…A tough one.

  1. Abraham Lincoln
  2. Woodrow Wilson
  3. F.D. Roosevelt
  4. Lyndon B. Johnson
  5. most of the rest…

[quote]LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:
Now some might say that Woodrow Wilson was a disgrace for dragging the US into the War to end all Wars, snicker, or imprisoning dissenters, dispending habeas corpus and other irrelevant shit like that, but the cause for his eternal damnation is of course a different one.

By allowing the production of the automobile, he personally, PERSONALLY, destroyed the horse buggy industry, with all the small companies surrounding it, like the ones that mades whips, or cleaned the horse manure off the road.

Discuss.[/quote]

Luddite!

What happened to Lincoln being the worst prez ever for ridding the American people of their silly, litle notion called self-determination…?[/quote]

Gasp!

How dare you!?!

You can find my impeccable arguments why Lincoln was a god amongst men here:

Also, you critized a war time president and will be dealt with accordingly.

I toss my sabots in your general direction.

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:
Now some might say that Woodrow Wilson was a disgrace for dragging the US into the War to end all Wars, snicker, or imprisoning dissenters, dispending habeas corpus and other irrelevant shit like that, but the cause for his eternal damnation is of course a different one.

By allowing the production of the automobile, he personally, PERSONALLY, destroyed the horse buggy industry, with all the small companies surrounding it, like the ones that mades whips, or cleaned the horse manure off the road.

Discuss.[/quote]

Luddite!

What happened to Lincoln being the worst prez ever for ridding the American people of their silly, litle notion called self-determination…?[/quote]

Gasp!

How dare you!?!

You can find my impeccable arguments why Lincoln was a god amongst men here:

Also, you critized a war time president and will be dealt with accordingly.

I toss my sabots in your general direction.

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Yes. He hath desecrated thy most holy of God’s prophets. He shall be declared anathema. For whom shall His humble servants then turn if not to thy greatest of God’s missionaries? May his transgressions against thy prophet Lincoln be forgiven, for he knoweth not what he doeth.

[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:
Now some might say that Woodrow Wilson was a disgrace for dragging the US into the War to end all Wars, snicker, or imprisoning dissenters, dispending habeas corpus and other irrelevant shit like that, but the cause for his eternal damnation is of course a different one.

By allowing the production of the automobile, he personally, PERSONALLY, destroyed the horse buggy industry, with all the small companies surrounding it, like the ones that mades whips, or cleaned the horse manure off the road.

Discuss.[/quote]

Some might say that a guy from Austria who thinks Woodrow Wilson was a ‘disgrace for dragging the US into the War’ and ‘personally, PERSONALLY, destroy(ing) the horse buggy industry’ is an idiot. Then again, after defending Ahamdinejad and ‘sniker(ing)’ at the First and Second World Wars one might also suspect a psychiatric disorder: sociopath, personality disorder?[/quote]

Do you have an argument?

I snicker in your general direction…and at all wars.

Dolt.

[quote]orion wrote:

Na, just because divers have brought ub around 15000 cartridges of .303 ammunition, the British standard ammunition in WWI, or the Germans bought advertising space to warn Americans to board the Lusitania, or the British Navy refused to protect the Lusitania, or she travelled extra slow to “conserve coal”…

Move along citizens, nothing to see here.

Anyhow, that shitz dont matter, he did not stand in the way of the auto industry, does destroying American jobs that he could have easily saved.

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Let me get this straight:

The fact that the Lusitania carried munitions and that the Germans had declared unrestricted Uboat warfare proves Woodrow Wilson sacrificed the vessel as a casus belli? Further evidence includes the British Navy’s failure to prevent the attack(before effective depth charges existed and before radar was in use)? Lastly, a coal-fired steam vessel travelling across the Atlantic went slowly to preserve fuel? Sounds conclusive to me.

[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

Na, just because divers have brought ub around 15000 cartridges of .303 ammunition, the British standard ammunition in WWI, or the Germans bought advertising space to warn Americans to board the Lusitania, or the British Navy refused to protect the Lusitania, or she travelled extra slow to “conserve coal”…

Move along citizens, nothing to see here.

Anyhow, that shitz dont matter, he did not stand in the way of the auto industry, does destroying American jobs that he could have easily saved.

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Let me get this straight:

The fact that the Lusitania carried munitions and that the Germans had declared unrestricted Uboat warfare proves Woodrow Wilson sacrificed the vessel as a casus belli? Further evidence includes the British Navy’s failure to prevent the attack(before effective depth charges existed and before radar was in use)? Lastly, a coal-fired steam vessel travelling across the Atlantic went slowly to preserve fuel? Sounds conclusive to me.[/quote]

In and of themselves, all of those would not be enough, all of them together is somewhat suspicious.

Especially since quite a lot of ammunition was smuggled on board of civilian American ships and the US had been called out on it amd had been warned that this specific ship would be targeted.

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

Na, just because divers have brought ub around 15000 cartridges of .303 ammunition, the British standard ammunition in WWI, or the Germans bought advertising space to warn Americans to board the Lusitania, or the British Navy refused to protect the Lusitania, or she travelled extra slow to “conserve coal”…

Move along citizens, nothing to see here.

Anyhow, that shitz dont matter, he did not stand in the way of the auto industry, does destroying American jobs that he could have easily saved.

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Let me get this straight:

The fact that the Lusitania carried munitions and that the Germans had declared unrestricted Uboat warfare proves Woodrow Wilson sacrificed the vessel as a casus belli? Further evidence includes the British Navy’s failure to prevent the attack(before effective depth charges existed and before radar was in use)? Lastly, a coal-fired steam vessel travelling across the Atlantic went slowly to preserve fuel? Sounds conclusive to me.[/quote]

In and of themselves, all of those would not be enough, all of them together is somewhat suspicious.

Especially since quite a lot of ammunition was smuggled on board of civilian American ships and the US had been called out on it amd had been warned that this specific ship would be targeted.

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Yes, I can just imagine the communications between the British Foreign Office and the White House:

US: Look, we really want to join in the trench warfare going on over there and ideas?

Britain: Why don’t we allow one of your trans-Atlantic liners to get sunk by the Germans then you could have an excuse for joining us old man?

US: Great idea! How shall we arrange the conspiracy in such a manner as to fool the entire world?

Britain: Just put some munitions on board as usual and we’ll handle the rest. Remember to tell our suicide agent Captain Turner to go slowly. Jolly good chap he is for agreeing to die like this for us!

Mega dolt.

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:
Now some might say that Woodrow Wilson was a disgrace for dragging the US into the War to end all Wars, snicker, or imprisoning dissenters, dispending habeas corpus and other irrelevant shit like that, but the cause for his eternal damnation is of course a different one.

By allowing the production of the automobile, he personally, PERSONALLY, destroyed the horse buggy industry, with all the small companies surrounding it, like the ones that mades whips, or cleaned the horse manure off the road.

Discuss.[/quote]

Luddite!

What happened to Lincoln being the worst prez ever for ridding the American people of their silly, litle notion called self-determination…?[/quote]

Gasp!

How dare you!?!

You can find my impeccable arguments why Lincoln was a god amongst men here:

Also, you critized a war time president and will be dealt with accordingly.

I toss my sabots in your general direction.

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Major lolz. I am going to be stealing that last tag line from you as well…

[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]SexMachine wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

Na, just because divers have brought ub around 15000 cartridges of .303 ammunition, the British standard ammunition in WWI, or the Germans bought advertising space to warn Americans to board the Lusitania, or the British Navy refused to protect the Lusitania, or she travelled extra slow to “conserve coal”…

Move along citizens, nothing to see here.

Anyhow, that shitz dont matter, he did not stand in the way of the auto industry, does destroying American jobs that he could have easily saved.

[/quote]

Let me get this straight:

The fact that the Lusitania carried munitions and that the Germans had declared unrestricted Uboat warfare proves Woodrow Wilson sacrificed the vessel as a casus belli? Further evidence includes the British Navy’s failure to prevent the attack(before effective depth charges existed and before radar was in use)? Lastly, a coal-fired steam vessel travelling across the Atlantic went slowly to preserve fuel? Sounds conclusive to me.[/quote]

In and of themselves, all of those would not be enough, all of them together is somewhat suspicious.

Especially since quite a lot of ammunition was smuggled on board of civilian American ships and the US had been called out on it amd had been warned that this specific ship would be targeted.

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Yes, I can just imagine the communications between the British Foreign Office and the White House:

US: Look, we really want to join in the trench warfare going on over there and ideas?

Britain: Why don’t we allow one of your trans-Atlantic liners to get sunk by the Germans then you could have an excuse for joining us old man?

US: Great idea! How shall we arrange the conspiracy in such a manner as to fool the entire world?

Britain: Just put some munitions on board as usual and we’ll handle the rest. Remember to tell our suicide agent Captain Turner to go slowly. Jolly good chap he is for agreeing to die like this for us!

Mega dolt.[/quote]

Really?

In light of American history?

One pretext after another to start a war and this is highly implausible?

An advertisement that warned Americans to board the ship yet it was loaded with ammunition anyway, two ships sunk in the area the Lusitania was sunk and Churchill provided no destroyer escorts though they were readily available and instead of going full speed the ship was went as slow as possible and received no warning whatsoever?

And then of course all the propaganda after it was sunk, all innocent mistakes, I am sure, the British could not possibly know that they were expecting 4 million rounds of ammunition.

[quote]orion wrote:
Now some might say that Woodrow Wilson was a disgrace for dragging the US into the War to end all Wars, snicker, or imprisoning dissenters, dispending habeas corpus and other irrelevant shit like that, but the cause for his eternal damnation is of course a different one.

By allowing the production of the automobile, he personally, PERSONALLY, destroyed the horse buggy industry, with all the small companies surrounding it, like the ones that mades whips, or cleaned the horse manure off the road.

Discuss.[/quote]

The auto industry did not destroy the horse buggy industry, most of the buggy companies were the first to produce the bodies that were converted via engine.

one example. The Auto had to truley be one of the first booms to the American economy

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:
Now some might say that Woodrow Wilson was a disgrace for dragging the US into the War to end all Wars, snicker, or imprisoning dissenters, dispending habeas corpus and other irrelevant shit like that, but the cause for his eternal damnation is of course a different one.

By allowing the production of the automobile, he personally, PERSONALLY, destroyed the horse buggy industry, with all the small companies surrounding it, like the ones that mades whips, or cleaned the horse manure off the road.

Discuss.[/quote]

The auto industry did not destroy the horse buggy industry, most of the buggy companies were the first to produce the bodies that were converted via engine.

one example. The Auto had to truley be one of the first booms to the American economy [/quote]

It is entirely irrelevant whether cheap and easy transportation created jobs elsewhere or where a net benefit to millions of people, the horse buggy industry shoud have been protected.

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:
Now some might say that Woodrow Wilson was a disgrace for dragging the US into the War to end all Wars, snicker, or imprisoning dissenters, dispending habeas corpus and other irrelevant shit like that, but the cause for his eternal damnation is of course a different one.

By allowing the production of the automobile, he personally, PERSONALLY, destroyed the horse buggy industry, with all the small companies surrounding it, like the ones that mades whips, or cleaned the horse manure off the road.

Discuss.[/quote]

It did not need protection , it had a big gain now they still had the old market for horse buggies and a brand new market for horseless buggies .

The auto industry did not destroy the horse buggy industry, most of the buggy companies were the first to produce the bodies that were converted via engine.

one example. The Auto had to truley be one of the first booms to the American economy [/quote]

It is entirely irrelevant whether cheap and easy transportation created jobs elsewhere or where a net benefit to millions of people, the horse buggy industry shoud have been protected.
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[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:
Now some might say that Woodrow Wilson was a disgrace for dragging the US into the War to end all Wars, snicker, or imprisoning dissenters, dispending habeas corpus and other irrelevant shit like that, but the cause for his eternal damnation is of course a different one.

By allowing the production of the automobile, he personally, PERSONALLY, destroyed the horse buggy industry, with all the small companies surrounding it, like the ones that mades whips, or cleaned the horse manure off the road.

Discuss.[/quote]

It did not need protection , it had a big gain now they still had the old market for horse buggies and a brand new market for horseless buggies .

The auto industry did not destroy the horse buggy industry, most of the buggy companies were the first to produce the bodies that were converted via engine.

one example. The Auto had to truley be one of the first booms to the American economy [/quote]

It is entirely irrelevant whether cheap and easy transportation created jobs elsewhere or where a net benefit to millions of people, the horse buggy industry shoud have been protected.
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Really?

How many do you still see on teh streets?

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:
Now some might say that Woodrow Wilson was a disgrace for dragging the US into the War to end all Wars, snicker, or imprisoning dissenters, dispending habeas corpus and other irrelevant shit like that, but the cause for his eternal damnation is of course a different one.

By allowing the production of the automobile, he personally, PERSONALLY, destroyed the horse buggy industry, with all the small companies surrounding it, like the ones that mades whips, or cleaned the horse manure off the road.

Discuss.[/quote]

It did not need protection , it had a big gain now they still had the old market for horse buggies and a brand new market for horseless buggies .

The auto industry did not destroy the horse buggy industry, most of the buggy companies were the first to produce the bodies that were converted via engine.

one example. The Auto had to truley be one of the first booms to the American economy [/quote]

It is entirely irrelevant whether cheap and easy transportation created jobs elsewhere or where a net benefit to millions of people, the horse buggy industry shoud have been protected.
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Really?

How many do you still see on teh streets?

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Looks like Fisher Body went out of business in the mid 80s

Holy Shit I just realized they went out of business under Reagan’s watch :slight_smile: