Will the WASP Always Win?

[quote]PRCalDude wrote:
It is with many people, and believe it or not, many of them are Democrats.

I think I know what you’re talking about there.

I think a lot of whites might actually vote for Obama because of “white guilt” as Shelby Steele defines it. You see that plenty in the Prius-driving “Stuff White People Like” subset on the west side of Los Angeles. So maybe I was wrong about “race not being an issue.” [/quote]

You also have some groups of white people that are trying to justify NOT voting for Obama but are afraid of sounding like they are doing it because of race. They don’t want to appear racist either, so they go through these long explanations that are unnecessary in my opinion. My view is that you wouldn’t vote that way regardless of race, so why do you feel a need to explain it to me? Vote for who you want to vote for as far as I am concerned. Just don’t bitch about it later to me if it doesn’t turn out like you thought it would.

This thread is racist.

seriously it comes down to SELF INTEREST groups and how is most PUPPETED by them. REplublicans are much more interested in big business, than the benefits of the people. That is not a conspiracy theory.

Mccain will step up in the shoes of benefiting big business, oil companies, and all the people who voted for bush last term will be thinking the same thing two years from now that they made a mistake just like the do now.

But its even worse, DO you actually think that PALIN is gonna have any power? she will just sit back and do charity work while MCCAIN plays war games.

OUR ECONOMY will suffer, oil will sky rocket , we will be in iraq for ten more years. HE will feed bush’s companies, and halburton.

BUY remember we got to protect ourselves from terrorists right?

7000 people a year die from aspirin reactions, the fourth leading cause of death in the united states is pharmacalogical drug interaction.

TERRORISTS? try nothing in the last seven years? HAVE FUN BELIEVING THE PRESS!

foreigner ? stupid? im American, but I believe the economy needs to have all that war money pumped into education, thus balancing out the divide between the rich and the poor. ThatS THE ONLY WAY TO FIX THIS ECONOMY.

[quote]ALDurr wrote:
PRCalDude wrote:
It is with many people, and believe it or not, many of them are Democrats.

I think I know what you’re talking about there.

I think a lot of whites might actually vote for Obama because of “white guilt” as Shelby Steele defines it. You see that plenty in the Prius-driving “Stuff White People Like” subset on the west side of Los Angeles. So maybe I was wrong about “race not being an issue.”

You also have some groups of white people that are trying to justify NOT voting for Obama but are afraid of sounding like they are doing it because of race. They don’t want to appear racist either, so they go through these long explanations that are unnecessary in my opinion. [/quote]

There probably are a lot of single issue voters (i.e. Obama’s a black man) out there. I just think they will be balanced by the white guiltists on the opposite side and won’t affect the election.

[quote]Gambit_Lost wrote:
As I’ve tried to say in the other thread, you need to look at the numbers/figures for yourself. Economists track growth, not just of the economy as a whole, but of different parts of an economy as well. When an economy grows, theoretically all parts of the economy should grow. They have not.
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Name a time in history when all parts of an economy grew equally. It has never happened.

Even the dot com bubble left certain sectors behind, as witnessed by Warren Buffet’s portfolio during the tech boom. He stayed out, and his portfolio lost 30%.

But intellectual honesty must be an elective you have yet to take at college.

[quote]MISCONCEPTION wrote:
seriously it comes down to SELF INTEREST groups and how is most PUPPETED by them. REplublicans are much more interested in big business, than the benefits of the people. That is not a conspiracy theory.

Mccain will step up in the shoes of benefiting big business, oil companies, and all the people who voted for bush last term will be thinking the same thing two years from now that they made a mistake just like the do now.

But its even worse, DO you actually think that PALIN is gonna have any power? she will just sit back and do charity work while MCCAIN plays war games.

OUR ECONOMY will suffer, oil will sky rocket , we will be in iraq for ten more years. HE will feed bush’s companies, and halburton.

BUY remember we got to protect ourselves from terrorists right?

7000 people a year die from aspirin reactions, the fourth leading cause of death in the united states is pharmacalogical drug interaction.

TERRORISTS? try nothing in the last seven years? HAVE FUN BELIEVING THE PRESS!

foreigner ? stupid? im American, but I believe the economy needs to have all that war money pumped into education, thus balancing out the divide between the rich and the poor. ThatS THE ONLY WAY TO FIX THIS ECONOMY.[/quote]

Hmmm, sound like a moveon.org mission statement.

If you want socialism move to a socialist country. Wealth redistribution and government intrusiveness is not why this country was founded. Independence is better than dependence. Dependence on the government makes us slaves to it.

Education is a black hole economically. Money goes in and never comes out. So putting it there to stimulate the economy is just dumb.

Oil is going down and the problem is solvable. Drill here and utilize alternatives. Just like Paris Hilton suggests. Drilling our own oil will give us far more control over world prices as will needing less of it. This is not rocket science. The democrats still want us to rely on our enemies for resources, I hope I don’t have to explain why that is idiotic.

If people make stupid drug decisions, I don’t see how that’s my problem…People die from something all the time. We are not immortal we are all going to die, the government will not give you eternal life, just ask Ted Kennedy. If you eliminate the number one cause of death, number two will become number one. The same amount of people die no matter what. You can’t stop people from being stupid. Behaviour control will not save anyone, it hasn’t yet…You know like that “war on drugs” thing? Boy that worked. Just as many people die every year with prohibition as would without.

There is a reason we haven’t had any terrorist attacks in 7 years. We took the fight to them. As bad an idea as going into iraq was, it did have the handy side effect of drawing the terrorists there. It not like they got bored with us or something. They have tried multiple attacks on us, they just failed because we caught them.

[quote]MISCONCEPTION wrote:
seriously it comes down to SELF INTEREST groups and how is most PUPPETED by them. REplublicans are much more interested in big business, than the benefits of the people. That is not a conspiracy theory.

Mccain will step up in the shoes of benefiting big business, oil companies, and all the people who voted for bush last term will be thinking the same thing two years from now that they made a mistake just like the do now. [/quote]

Who voted for Bush? I voted against the other guy.

2 years ago when people voted the Republicans out of congress, it wasn’t because they wanted Democrats. It was because the Republicans were acting like Democrats, so what was the point in voting for them?

That is exactly the sentiment I heard from many conservatives, but not what the media spun.[quote]

But its even worse, DO you actually think that PALIN is gonna have any power? she will just sit back and do charity work while MCCAIN plays war games. [/quote]

You sure are all over the map here. She will have a little power, as the tie breaker for some votes. Everyone should know this.[quote]

OUR ECONOMY will suffer, oil will sky rocket , we will be in iraq for ten more years. HE will feed bush’s companies, and halburton. [/quote]

I thought this wasn’t supposed to be a conspiracy theory, but that is exactly what you are pushing. For some reason he wants to make some other guys businesses, that he has no interest in, wealthy. Yeah, right.[quote]

BUY remember we got to protect ourselves from terrorists right?[/quote]

Uh, yeah. Actually we do.

7000 people a year die from aspirin reactions, the fourth leading cause of death in the united states is pharmacalogical drug interaction. [/quote]

So your saying the deaths we have experienced in Iraq are tiny compared to aspirin deaths? Great point.[quote]

TERRORISTS? try nothing in the last seven years? HAVE FUN BELIEVING THE PRESS![/quote]

Yes, our government did a great job of stopping terrorist plots here in the USA. As of last year our government has prevented at least 19 terrorist plots against America.[quote]

foreigner ? stupid? im American, but I believe the economy needs to have all that war money pumped into education, thus balancing out the divide between the rich and the poor. ThatS THE ONLY WAY TO FIX THIS ECONOMY.[/quote]

Why can’t we do both? Anyway you do know they haven’t found any link to the amount of money spent on education, and it’s benefits don’t you? In fact some of the less funded schools seem to be doing better then the more funded ones.

Although the whole idea of throwing money at a problem to solve it is not a good one. (A completely liberal idea if you really want to know.) We need to find solutions to problems, not just think that pumping money into something makes it better.

(Am I getting off topic?) Here is an example. Many businesses actually fail because they have too much money, believe it or not. They run into a problem, and finance it away instead of solving it. Companies that don’t have the money to do that are more likely to find creative ways around that problem, and as a result find better, more efficient ways to get the same results.

Similarly, if you read the research published in the Millionaire Next Door, you find that there is an inverse relationship between a person receiving financial help, and success. Everyone thinks having rich parents helping out their kids makes them lucky when in fact it has the opposite effect.

I would love for intelligent financial education to become part of our schools curriculum, but the side effect is that it would result in a new generation that understands money enough that suddenly the Democrats ideas no longer make sense to anyone. That would devastate that party. (And is probably why it’s not there.)

[quote]Gambit_Lost wrote:
OP you can get out of here with your bs too.[/quote]

Look at the college kid thinking he has a reason to breathe.

pharmacalogical

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[quote]MISCONCEPTION wrote:
foreigner ? stupid? im American, but I believe the economy needs to have all that war money pumped into education, thus balancing out the divide between the rich and the poor. ThatS THE ONLY WAY TO FIX THIS ECONOMY.[/quote]

Defense spending is one of the very few responsibilities that is expressly given to them in the constitution.

Oddly enough, education is not on that list.

[quote]MISCONCEPTION wrote:
I just cant imagine how any body cant Vote for mcain? its such a shame to imagine another 4 years of a bullshit war, with a wasp at the helm. He is bush in sheeps clothing, with a VP that is nothing more than a pretty face to counter his walking dead. This whole thing is misery.

ON a side note I believe that IRAQ was better off with SADDAM, they needed an iron fist ruler, and I ask anyone to question if there life is better today than it was under clinton?
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The English language, after centuries of use, gives the people in such a society an advantage over others. English, with its shades of meaning and heavy emphasis on future-orientation, encourages concept formation. It therefore follows that WASPs have an advantage over those whose cultures have used less advanced languages, like Arabic. It took English, for ex, to make use of the mathematics discovered by the Arabs and Chinese.

So, yes, WASPs usually win, and will eventually take over the world.

[quote]rainjack wrote:
MISCONCEPTION wrote:
foreigner ? stupid? im American, but I believe the economy needs to have all that war money pumped into education, thus balancing out the divide between the rich and the poor. ThatS THE ONLY WAY TO FIX THIS ECONOMY.

Defense spending is one of the very few responsibilities that is expressly given to them in the constitution.

Oddly enough, education is not on that list.

[/quote]

For all the money we spend on education ($9k/pupil/year), we get very little. But the libs (and Bush) want to keep throwing more money at it without understanding what the underlying problems are first.

[quote]Headhunter wrote:

The English language, after centuries of use, gives the people in such a society an advantage over others. English, with its shades of meaning and heavy emphasis on future-orientation, encourages concept formation. It therefore follows that WASPs have an advantage over those whose cultures have used less advanced languages, like Arabic. It took English, for ex, to make use of the mathematics discovered by the Arabs and Chinese.

So, yes, WASPs usually win, and will eventually take over the world.

[/quote]

Interesting stuff.

[quote]rainjack wrote:
Gambit_Lost wrote:
As I’ve tried to say in the other thread, you need to look at the numbers/figures for yourself. Economists track growth, not just of the economy as a whole, but of different parts of an economy as well. When an economy grows, theoretically all parts of the economy should grow. They have not.

Name a time in history when all parts of an economy grew equally. It has never happened.

Even the dot com bubble left certain sectors behind, as witnessed by Warren Buffet’s portfolio during the tech boom. He stayed out, and his portfolio lost 30%.

But intellectual honesty must be an elective you have yet to take at college. [/quote]

Intellectual honesty you say? You changed “all parts should grow” to “all parts should grow [i][u]equally[/i][/u].” See the difference? Everyone else did.

It’s not that there has been uneven growth, it’s that there hasn’t been growth for all but the top.

And I like the new “college” thing as your latest ad hominem . Just how old (or young) do you think I am?

[quote]Gambit_Lost wrote:

Intellectual honesty you say? You changed “all parts should grow” to “all parts should grow [i][u]equally[/i][/u].” See the difference? Everyone else did.

It’s not that there has been uneven growth, it’s that there hasn’t been growth for all but the top.

And I like the new “college” thing as your latest ad hominem . Just how old (or young) do you think I am?

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Take out the “equally”, and my statement will still stand.

I really don’t care how old you are. You have “student” as an occupation. Walk like a duck - quack like a duck.

[quote]rainjack wrote:
Gambit_Lost wrote:

Intellectual honesty you say? You changed “all parts should grow” to “all parts should grow [i][u]equally[/i][/u].” See the difference? Everyone else did.

It’s not that there has been uneven growth, it’s that there hasn’t been growth for all but the top.

And I like the new “college” thing as your latest ad hominem . Just how old (or young) do you think I am?

Take out the “equally”, and my statement will still stand.

I really don’t care how old you are. You have “student” as an occupation. Walk like a duck - quack like a duck.

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You want me to find a period where all parts of the economy grew? My friend, that’s most periods in American history. That’s why America (and capitalism) are so amazing. It’s the last ten years that have been an anomaly. We’re Americans, our standard of living normally improves. Not just for some, but for all.

Remember “all boats rise in a rising tide.” There’s normally a hell of a lot of truth to that statement. The fact that it hasn’t been true for the last 10 years or so is a serious concern for all Americans.

[quote]Mick28 wrote:
MISCONCEPTION wrote:
I just cant imagine how any body cant Vote for mcain? its such a shame to imagine another 4 years of a bullshit war, with a wasp at the helm. He is bush in sheeps clothing, with a VP that is nothing more than a pretty face to counter his walking dead. This whole thing is misery.

ON a side note I believe that IRAQ was better off with SADDAM, they needed an iron fist ruler, and I ask anyone to question if there life is better today than it was under clinton?

Another dissatisfied foreigner. I’ve noticed that people like you, lixy and horion are really stressing over our election…that’s funny to me.

Really…who cares what you think? Americans will elect who we elect it has little to do with you. Why don’t you worry about your own country?

What an idea…

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Because America has shown a big tendency in the last 50 years of fucking with and/or invading little countries?

[quote]PRCalDude wrote:
rainjack wrote:
MISCONCEPTION wrote:
foreigner ? stupid? im American, but I believe the economy needs to have all that war money pumped into education, thus balancing out the divide between the rich and the poor. ThatS THE ONLY WAY TO FIX THIS ECONOMY.

Defense spending is one of the very few responsibilities that is expressly given to them in the constitution.

Oddly enough, education is not on that list.

For all the money we spend on education ($9k/pupil/year), we get very little. But the libs (and Bush) want to keep throwing more money at it without understanding what the underlying problems are first. [/quote]

People say this.

What do you think the underlying problems are?

[quote]Headhunter wrote:
MISCONCEPTION wrote:
I just cant imagine how any body cant Vote for mcain? its such a shame to imagine another 4 years of a bullshit war, with a wasp at the helm. He is bush in sheeps clothing, with a VP that is nothing more than a pretty face to counter his walking dead. This whole thing is misery.

ON a side note I believe that IRAQ was better off with SADDAM, they needed an iron fist ruler, and I ask anyone to question if there life is better today than it was under clinton?

The English language, after centuries of use, gives the people in such a society an advantage over others. English, with its shades of meaning and heavy emphasis on future-orientation, encourages concept formation.

It therefore follows that WASPs have an advantage over those whose cultures have used less advanced languages, like Arabic. It took English, for ex, to make use of the mathematics discovered by the Arabs and Chinese.

So, yes, WASPs usually win, and will eventually take over the world.

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You are so fucking disgustingly delusional it sickens me that you teach children, and the fact that someone hasn’t thrown your ass in Bellevue continually amazes me.