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Wikipedia Deletes Link Between Obama Slogan & Socialism


May 8, 2012 11:08 am

Wikipedia has decided to delete the page titled “Forward (generic name of socialist publications.)”

Wikipedia wrote this morning that after reading many comments and “various good points made on either side,” they deemed that there is “little or no connection between the disparate publications of the same or similar name other than similar ideological outlooks.”

That seems awfully peculiar that this happens right now, just weeks after Obama’s campaign announced their slogan would be “Forward.” The page has been up for almost a year and a half, so why now?

Wikipedia says that, “while the publications listed in the article are indeed individually notable, there does not appear to be a unity between them except in terms of sharing some name and being socialist in character.”

So, Wikipedia, you expect me to believe that there is no unity between all of the publications even though they shared the exact same name and socialist political ideology? I’m not buying it. This never would have happened if Obama’s campaign slogan were something other than “Forward.”

Although Wikipedia maintains the individual articles in a “Disambiguation” page of “Forward” on which the various publications are listed.

Many students and professionals across the world go to Wikipedia to gain an understanding of a situation. Since Wikipedia is not a viable source of research, one would have to go elsewhere to obtain more substantial data, but Wikipedia can be a great resource to become acclimated to a topic.

Suppose you were a high-school student doing research on communism for a dreaded “term-paper.” The student may look up that Vladamir Lenin famously started a publication whose title translates to “Forward,” and that title was used as a sort of motif throughout socialism in Europe over the next few decades. Would that information not be useful to a student?

Leave Obama’s slogan off of that page, put it on their “Campaign 2012” page, do whatever, just don’t take down a page of information strictly because the Democratic president used the word as his slogan.

Like I said in a prior article about this topic: I don’t think that anyone on Obama’s campaign team wanted to make a reference to communism or socialism. But what it does say is that their team was ignorant in choosing a title. A simple “Google” search would have shown the unintelligent marketing squad that the word “Forward” could possibly have ties to socialism, which could create an argument.

It is representative of the administration to make a petty mistake like this that could have easily been avoided with a 5 second internet-search.

similar story - http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/inside-politics/2012/apr/30/new-obama-slogan-has-long-ties-marxism-socialism/ - the article has been pulled down.


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DrSkeptix - Would you please share the translation with a gimp? I have never had in interest in learning Arabic ; )

[quote]kneedragger79 wrote:
DrSkeptix - Would you please share the translation with a gimp? I have never had in interest in learning Arabic ; )[/quote]

As a fellow gimp, here’s one clue:

…and a second one to follow…

[quote]DrSkeptix wrote:
…and a second one to follow…[/quote]

'The Obama campaign apparently didn’t look backwards into history when selecting its new campaign slogan, “Forward” ? a word with a long and rich association with European Marxism.

Many Communist and radical publications and entities throughout the 19th and 20th centuries had the name “Forward!” or its foreign cognates. Wikipedia has an entire section called “Forward (generic name of socialist publications).”(Not any more apparently.)

“The name Forward carries a special meaning in socialist political terminology. It has been frequently used as a name for socialist, communist and other left-wing newspapers and publications,” the online encyclopedia explains.

The slogan “Forward!” reflected the conviction of European Marxists and radicals that their movements reflected the march of history, which would move forward past capitalism and into socialism and communism.

The Obama campaign released its new campaign slogan Monday in a 7-minute video. The title card has simply the word “Forward” with the “O” having the familiar Obama logo from 2008. It will be played at rallies this weekend that mark the Obama re-election campaign’s official beginning.

There have been at least two radical-left publications named “Vorwaerts” (the German word for “Forward”). One was the daily newspaper of the Social Democratic Party of Germany whose writers included Friedrich Engels and Leon Trotsky. It still publishes as the organ of Germany’s SDP, though that party has changed considerably since World War II. Another was the 1844 biweekly reader of the Communist League. Karl Marx, Engels and Mikhail Bakunin are among the names associated with that publication.

East Germany named its Army soccer club ASK Vorwaerts Berlin (later FC Vorwaerts Frankfort).

Vladimir Lenin founded the publication “Vpered” (the Russian word for “forward”) in 1905. Soviet propaganda film-maker Dziga Vertov made a documentary whose title is sometimes translated as “Forward, Soviet” (though also and more literally as “Stride, Soviet”).

Conservative critics of the Obama administration have noted numerous ties to radicalism and socialists throughout Mr. Obama’s history, from his first political campaign being launched from the living room of two former Weather Underground members, to appointing as green jobs czar Van Jones, a self-described communist.’ - Washington Times