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Wife Witnessed A Crime

Seems odd that your friend would be stopped for swerving in the manner he was. Your wife was behind him, not the cop. How long had they been driving when this occurred (i.e. how far from the gym were they)?

[quote]Tyler23 wrote:
Seems odd that your friend would be stopped for swerving in the manner he was. Your wife was behind him, not the cop. How long had they been driving when this occurred (i.e. how far from the gym were they)? [/quote]

Maybe 2-3 miles. I have seen this guy after he works out, dude is crazy with the Crossfit. He always has muscle shakes in his hands. I have had leg workouts where my legs are shaking and I have had issues with the brake and gas pedal. Was really not hard to imagine.

Yes she was behind him, cop was parked in a parking lot in front of them. When they got to the parking lot he pulled out in the road in front of the cars perpedicular to the road. He would have T-Boned the guy if my friend would not have stopped. It wasnt lights and sirens on a unmarked car.

[quote]DJHT wrote:
^ No doubt. My wife has had a lot of dealings with lawyers with her X husband. She can give a consitent statement.

I started this thread also to get some views from around the country about unmarked cars and what people would do in the same situation. [/quote]

Having head a license in several states (and having reviewed the driving manual before the state before hand) the driver has a right to verify an officer is a cop using 911 and can stop where ever they feel safe, even if that means driving miles to a police station.

Unmarked cars - I feel are questionable for traffic stops. The question I have was it an unmarked car or the officers personal car?

I had an experience in Texas (nearly 15 yrs ago) with an officer in his personal car. I pulled out with the sun in my eyes (not a good move) saw a car rapidly approaching so I floored it to get out of their way. Ended up being chased (high speed) and eventually pulled over where there was a lot of traffic (witnesses). Guy gets out and started shouting about how what I did was stupid because there could have been some crazy guy looking to hurt me (he was trying to teach me a lesson). I replied with something to the effect, I speed off because that is what I was worried about. He was shaking. The guy sat in his car for at least five minutes after that with his wife. (I was shaken up and not going anywhere either).

My point is that in today’s climate I have a feeling I would not have had the same experience.

I suspect for some officers they do not see the difference between being representatives of the law (which they are) and being the law (which they are not).

^ Wife said it was cops personal vehicle, no lights or anything remotly cop like. Guy was not even carrying a gun only had a hand held radio. At first she actually thought it was a NASA security off duty, due to the fact it was right outside NASA.

[quote]Steel Nation wrote:
Cops should not be allowed to pull people over in unmarked vehicles, regardless of the situation.[/quote]

this has happened to me in germany… it’s legal here, and really fucking weird. Unmarked vehicle pulled in front of us, then they put the lights on the hood, and they escorted us off the highway where the cops check our docs. They were in uniform though, but they had no ‘reason’ to pull us over… My friend (a US diplomat) who was driving said it was probably his beard that made him look ‘suspicious’ driving a rented BMW 6 series convi.

If a cop shows you his badge and asks for your drivers license, why wouldn’t you just show him? Your friend must have been really doubting that they were real cops for some reason. Otherwise, why go through all that trouble?

Motherfuckin, cocksuckin’ pigs!

And I don’t wanna hear any of you pig-defenders get on my ass that “I need to be a cop to know” bullshit.

There’s right and there’s wrong and I know them both when I see them.

By the way, BreStruction… your avatar is mesmerizing. WTF is going on there? Dolphin, banana, kid spinning…

[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
Motherfuckin, cocksuckin’ pigs!

And I don’t wanna hear any of you pig-defenders get on my ass that “I need to be a cop to know” bullshit.

There’s right and there’s wrong and I know them both when I see them.

By the way, BreStruction… your avatar is mesmerizing. WTF is going on there? Dolphin, banana, kid spinning…[/quote]

ID this to me is not one of those situations where you dont need perspective. Its 6:30 in the morning normal looking guy in a car with no obvious signs of violence or altered mental status.

The right thing to do would be to find this cop off duty and kick his ass.
Preferably when he just got in or is just about to get out of his car.
Then drag him out of the car and throw his keys where they can’t be retrieved.
Make sure there are no witnesses and that you have a few bruises and report him for assault.

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

It bears repeating: Motherfuckin’ cocksuckin’ pigs.

My wife has worked in a police station for years. Her advice…your friend needs to lawyer up and go after the bastard. More than likely, this officer probably has a history of going overboard…at least that’s been her experience. As for your wife, tell the truth, in plain fact and lawyer up if neccessary. Most cities don’t want the publicity this kind of thing brings with it and they will usually try to settle somehow.

I personally was a witness to a friend getting stomped by a couple of officers back in my college days. His crime was he was a smartass. Once the city found out what happened and that there were multiple witnesses to the beating, both officers were fired and the affair was settled out of court.

Good luck to your friend and your wife.

^ So you think my wife should contact our personal attorney? or wait to hear from our friends attorney to find out what my wife will need to do.

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though situation.

[quote]Beast27195 wrote:
Shit like this is why I left TX, and the US for a while, back in '01. I’m sorry all of you will have to endure this.[/quote]

You now live in a better place than the US. And where might that be?

[quote]pushharder wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

He should be prosecuted for assault not just lose his job.[/quote]

Interesting cause this is a Harris county deputy also.

Maybe it’s the same dude …

Regardless good luck with this DJHT

[quote]polo77j wrote:
Maybe it’s the same dude …

Regardless good luck with this DJHT[/quote]

That would be fucked up right.

Without a doubt … The whole situation is kind of nuts though…

Regardless an officer of the law must show restraint and there’s no need for the officer in question to have unloaded on your friend in this situation at all. Officers need to show better restraint than this and I truly hope he gets fired and charged with assault …

everybody get a lawyer.