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[quote]GetBigs wrote:
Thanks a lot guys, I’ll do my best. This is gonna be my last question:
So with training and diet in check, if I get very strong on OHP, will I have relatively well developed side delts too? [/quote]
You know what? I’ll just go ahead and say yes. Might as well, since you seem to only want a yes or no. My best OHP is 245. My best bench press is 375. My best deadlift is 585. And I can do a lot of pullups. If you can achieve these numbers, you’ll probably have similar delt development to me, as these are pretty much the only lifts I do to support delt growth.[/quote]
and just to be a dick I’m going to say no.
I do no overhead pressing whatsoever and train my shoulders entirely with raises. They’re the best they’ve ever looked, way better than when I used the OHP[/quote]
I should clarify. I was mostly suggesting if you reach truly big OHP numbers, you’ll probably end up with shoulders you can be proud of. I don’t see mid 200’s OHP’s very often in the first place, and I’ve never seen a guy do this with small delts.
I don’t think OHP is the best way to achieve this look. I just think it can work. Although it’s kind of a silly point, as others have mentioned. You’ll never see a guy with a 900 lbs squat and small legs, but that doesn’t mean you have to squat 900 to get big legs.
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I know, mate. I’m in full agreement with you[/quote]
I’m also of the opinion that quality supplementation helps delt growth immensely. Thoughts?[/quote]
Wouldn’t that be true for all muscle groups?[/quote]
A lot of people believe (and this may be bro science, but it seems to have been the case with me), that there are more androgen receptors in the delt/trap area, and that supplementation can cause additional site-specific growth. Actually it’s a fact that these areas have more androgen receptors. How this relates to real-world growth is the debatable part.
My OHP went up 40 lbs between the end of March and a few days ago, and I didn’t do OHP one time in that period. As far as my physique goes, delts and legs have probably changed the most since I started. Legs because that’s been my biggest focus. Either Bench pressing alone made my OHP that much better, or the supplementation was that effective.[/quote]
Interesting. I’ve never heard this even though it makes sense.[/quote]
it’s a big part of what is considered ‘the steroid look’, if such a thing truly exists. I’m a believer. For better or worse, I believe I have that look now.
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I’m pretty convinced it exists. See a lot of users with traps and delts that are just ludicrous![/quote]
Yeah I’ve seen guys where it’s literally all they have. Kind of like Tom Hardy in Warrior.[/quote]
I think it’s more to do with glycogen/nitrogen retention and the specific location of the delts that make them seem to “pop” more when on supps. Reason being I’ve used stuff with non-receptor mediated effects alone(yeah I did. Come on it was like 12 years ago!) and achieved a similar result.
Pillow fight?[/quote]
dt79 just admitted to a drol only cycle! Let him forever be shamed![/quote]
Dbol + deca actually.
Uh oh…[/quote]
Simone333? Is that you?
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Deca + winny? I not do! Infamnia! Like Godfather 3![/quote]
HAHA!