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Why T-Cell Fails...

  1. It’s redundant in the sense that any discussion taking place there could have taken place somewhere else.

  2. While I actually like most of posters using it I don’t consider any of them to be ‘elite.’ I don’t know all of them so my opinion might be misinformed.

  3. The point of a forum is interaction. I can’t interact on it and therefore have no use for it and have blocked it.

  4. Even if I could use it, much like BBB I wouldn’t use it because it smacks of pseudo-elitism, which is worse than actual elitism IMO because it’s cheesy.

In conclusion, I am sorry that the bodybuilders have had to put up with so much BS on their forum, but the T-Cells take away from this website as a whole. People that used to interact on the forums are now privately having discussions that exclude most of the population, thus alienating them.

So basically my suggestion would be to take the extra forums and block them out (v-diet, training logs, etc…) and have the moderators monitor what goes on the BB forum so that it is still open to the public AND satisfies the desires of posters that were sick of the off-topic bullshit there.

It could be argued that the discussions on the T-Cell will SO interesting that it’ll be worth it. I doubt it, unless maybe you are an utter noob to lifting. THAT DOESN’T MEAN that the discussions aren’t interesting there, it means that the loss to the other forums isn’t somehow made up by the fact that the interesting discussions that used to be public are now private.

I hope everyone that read that last paragraph comprehends that it is NOT an attack on the posters of the T-Cell, it is merely an observation about what the T-Cell realistically adds and takes away from this site.

Jealousy.

[quote]-ironman- wrote:
Jealousy.[/quote]

Actually, it’s just a dumb idea.

[quote]-ironman- wrote:
Jealousy.[/quote]

/thread.

Honestly, it’s been 3 fucking days since it opened up, and you already know it’s going to fail?

You are a fucking genius. Maybe Biotest should just hire you to guide them.

Fucking babies.

agreed.

[quote]rainjack wrote:
-ironman- wrote:
Jealousy.

/thread.

Honestly, it’s been 3 fucking days since it opened up, and you already know it’s going to fail?

You are a fucking genius. Maybe Biotest should just hire you to guide them.

Fucking babies. [/quote]

As much as I’d like to roll in feces with you it’s clear you didn’t even read the entire post. It’s pretty straight forward. If you can’t understand it I can’t help you. If you don’t agree with it I don’t care.

First i want to check on the things you wrote in your post will become reality.
It`s too early to see the whole dimension of the T-Cell Alpha.
But i wonder why i can enter the T-Cell Alpha Forum and read the threads. I think i can also write answers to the topics.
Very weird :slight_smile:

[quote]beebuddy wrote:
rainjack wrote:
-ironman- wrote:
Jealousy.

/thread.

Honestly, it’s been 3 fucking days since it opened up, and you already know it’s going to fail?

You are a fucking genius. Maybe Biotest should just hire you to guide them.

Fucking babies.

As much as I’d like to roll in feces with you it’s clear you didn’t even read the entire post. It’s pretty straight forward. If you can’t understand it I can’t help you. If you don’t agree with it I don’t care. [/quote]

If you don’t care, why did you post this?

For all of you with such negative things to say, where were you when we were dealing with what led to the T-Cell in the first place?

None of you were this vocal then. In fact, most of you claimed that it was a good thing that this board wasn’t focusing on bodybuilding anymore as if rock climbing, combat pyramids and people bitching about how they want to eat chocolate was a good thing.

In my opinion, if you weren’t with us when we were making an issue of this before, you have little to stand on to bitch so much now.

I’m just curious how we know that the people in there are “swole” and know what the fuck they’re talking about? Lots of posts? Many years? Pics? Biotest payroll?

I’m interested in reading it… just wish I could pop in the V-Diet thread to flame it a little bit.

[quote]msd0060 wrote:
I’m just curious how we know that the people in there are “swole” and know what the fuck they’re talking about? Lots of posts? Many years? Pics? Biotest payroll?

I’m interested in reading it… just wish I could pop in the V-Diet thread to flame it a little bit.[/quote]

I just checked your profile…where are YOUR pics?

[quote]beebuddy wrote:
rainjack wrote:
-ironman- wrote:
Jealousy.

/thread.

Honestly, it’s been 3 fucking days since it opened up, and you already know it’s going to fail?

You are a fucking genius. Maybe Biotest should just hire you to guide them.

Fucking babies.

As much as I’d like to roll in feces with you it’s clear you didn’t even read the entire post. It’s pretty straight forward. If you can’t understand it I can’t help you. If you don’t agree with it I don’t care. [/quote]

What feces? I did read your crap, and quite frankly, it was a waste of 13 seconds.

Let me get this straight - your opinion is the only one that matters. You don’t care what anyone else has to say. And if they happen to use an expletive or two, it is a roll in the feces.

I pity you.

I like how there are posters that even Biotest respect enough to give them an unmoderated (truth, I hope) forum. Call it elitism if it helps you to sleep at night, but the majority of the people there walk the walk and look the part.

My only concern is that some of the invited posters are confessed iron newbies no more than a couple of years ago, some even less than that. I’d prefer if a poster would have to be invited 5 or 10 times before he/she is an official member, sort of like how trades are vetoed in fantasy baseball.

I also wonder if voting off is already similar to what I proposed in the preceding paragraph.

[quote]Professor X wrote:
msd0060 wrote:
I’m just curious how we know that the people in there are “swole” and know what the fuck they’re talking about? Lots of posts? Many years? Pics? Biotest payroll?

I’m interested in reading it… just wish I could pop in the V-Diet thread to flame it a little bit.

I just checked your profile…where are YOUR pics?[/quote]

I’ll post before/after pics after body recomp is done. I’ve lost 80 pounds and look like shit. Never said I was better than anyone…

[quote]msd0060 wrote:
Professor X wrote:
msd0060 wrote:
I’m just curious how we know that the people in there are “swole” and know what the fuck they’re talking about? Lots of posts? Many years? Pics? Biotest payroll?

I’m interested in reading it… just wish I could pop in the V-Diet thread to flame it a little bit.

I just checked your profile…where are YOUR pics?

I’ll post before/after pics after body recomp is done. I’ve lost 80 pounds and look like shit. Never said I was better than anyone…[/quote]

Then stop judging people. Even the 14 year old has posted pics on this forum. That isn’t to say EVERYONE in there has, but I have stated for many years that you should have your picture up somewhere if you are going to give advice or criticize someone else.

I do lift weights.

My pics have been up for years.

If you want to talk shit, show that you have the balls to walk it as well as you shout it.

While it would be great if every member in there was swole, I believe it was created for people who appreciate bodybuilding in and of itself instead of stigmatizing it like many have been doing.

Whether they have the physiques to warrant their stay there, if they are truly busting their ass day in and day out to maximize their genetic potential, why shouldn’t they be there to interact with those with the same mindset?

Just a quick question to the people arguing against the Cell: what, exactly, do you think the purpose of it is (this excludes the people who obviously just don’t fucking get it)?

It seems to me that a lot of folks are expecting the members of that forum to come up with some major bodybuilding breakthrough (and, as such, stress that only the biggest and brightest of T-Nation should be allowed in). I look at it as a place where people with passion and respect for weight lifting can hang out and interact in peace.

For fuck’s sake,will all those prophets of doom and gloom just give the T-Cell idea some time to develop and get going?

This is all just smacking of sour grapes.

[quote]msd0060 wrote:
I’m just curious how we know that the people in there are “swole” and know what the fuck they’re talking about? Lots of posts? Many years? Pics? Biotest payroll?

I’m interested in reading it… just wish I could pop in the V-Diet thread to flame it a little bit.[/quote]

The first members of Alpha were chosen due to their vocalization regarding, and support of, such a section in other threads. Since Friday, all additional members have been selected by these originals. Quite simple, really.

T-Cells are nothing more than groups. Just another sub-section of this vast community. And Alpha is far from the only cell that will be featured.

[quote]LowfatMatt wrote:
msd0060 wrote:
I’m just curious how we know that the people in there are “swole” and know what the fuck they’re talking about? Lots of posts? Many years? Pics? Biotest payroll?

I’m interested in reading it… just wish I could pop in the V-Diet thread to flame it a little bit.

The first members of Alpha were chosen due to their vocalization regarding, and support of, such a section in other threads. Since Friday, all additional members have been selected by these originals. Quite simple, really.

T-Cells are nothing more than groups. Just another sub-section of this vast community. And Alpha is far from the only cell that will be featured.[/quote]

End Of Thread.

[quote]Professor X wrote:
beebuddy wrote:
rainjack wrote:
-ironman- wrote:
Jealousy.

/thread.

Honestly, it’s been 3 fucking days since it opened up, and you already know it’s going to fail?

You are a fucking genius. Maybe Biotest should just hire you to guide them.

Fucking babies.

As much as I’d like to roll in feces with you it’s clear you didn’t even read the entire post. It’s pretty straight forward. If you can’t understand it I can’t help you. If you don’t agree with it I don’t care.

If you don’t care, why did you post this?

For all of you with such negative things to say, where were you when we were dealing with what led to the T-Cell in the first place?

None of you were this vocal then. In fact, most of you claimed that it was a good thing that this board wasn’t focusing on bodybuilding anymore as if rock climbing, combat pyramids and people bitching about how they want to eat chocolate was a good thing.

In my opinion, if you weren’t with us when we were making an issue of this before, you have little to stand on to bitch so much now.[/quote]

That post was for Rainjack. I don’t care what he personally thinks because if I did he would try to pull me into one one his flame wars.

I’ve actually supported your position for awhile, in public and via PM with staff. I’ve been fed up with the moderation more so than the bullshit on the BB forum, but that is just a difference of personal interest (I post on the BB forum much less than you). I agree that what was happening on the BBing forum was a shame.

I’m just making the observation that what the T-Cell seems to take away from the other forums it doesn’t make up for. What we are left with are two forums that are more than likely made up of posters of equal quality.

So my question is, instead of alienating some posters and falsely-elevating others, why don’t we do a better job moderating the open format we had before? Although at first I didn’t agree, my view now is that the v-diet forum etc… are the perfect solution to cleaning up the BB forum and making the that forum respectable again.

And trust me when I say “falsely-elevating” I am not making a personal attack on anyone. That’s just the way I see it happening the way things are set up. There are some really good heads in there, you included PX.