B rocK wrote:
That’s the typical stack that I’ve read about a few times. But very rarely does the thread go beyond saying “this is what you do”
I’d like to know WHY stack them? What benefits would one get? What possible (if any) negatives?
My epi stack had great strength gains, size gains and I even leaned out a bit (not the purpose, but I’ll take it). But now during PCT I’m getting acne, and during the cycle I got REALLY tired/lethargic.
Would stacking these alleviate, increase or do nothing to symptoms like these?
I’ll PM this to WC and have him read things over if he has time.
Acne and lethargy are completely unrelated to hdrol specifically.
The acne in the PCT is completely normal to all exogenous androgens, its from rapid hormone shifts as your system comes back online. There are also many theories that SERMs may contribute to acne to a certain extent, they are estrogens after all.
But regardless, that has nothing to do with hdrol itself, that is just for steroids/PCT’s in general.
The tiredness/lethargy is the same boat.
Its actually due to low testosterone production. Once you shutdown your natural hormone production and its rates start to fall your going to feel more and more tired unless the hormone your taking can adequately replace test.
Hdrol and havoc can not.
This is why people used to recommend running 4AD with just about everything back when it was still around.
Not only did it produce a nice synergy because it was testosterone, but it also kept enough test and estrogen in the system to keep the user comfrotable.
Now on drug choice, the epi/hdrol stack I recommended is just one of many many possible combinations. It is one of the milder and more “kindly” stacks as far as cardiovascular ability is concerned. It synergizes well as the epi is a bit more type I and the hdrol is type II, and the epi “kicks” in faster, it can be felt in the first week much of the time.
Hdrol on the other hand takes longer than average and needs to be run for almost 6-7 weeks to take full advantage of its strength gains.
Its not a “kickstart” as both compounds are fast acting and both are increasing protien synthesis from the start, its just that epi’s STRENGTH gains are more noticeable early on.
I dont really consider any prohormones to have “sideffects” bad enough to be avoided, but some people do, so I took that into consideration.
Feel free to mix the PH’s as you like, there is no “best stack”, because not all users are the same, and because not all users have the same goals.
Its like asking me what the best steroid cycle is, I can tell you some GOOD cycles, but BEST is a relative term.
There are three variables just like any steroid cycle, cost, risk/sideeffects, gains required.
Thanks for jumping in here WC. It’s always appreciated.