Ya same here i would rather stay away from the saturated fats regardless of it boosting t levels or not. I dont agree or disagree with others thoughts, i just prefer it this way and am stickin to it. I would rather be healthy than trying to boost my t levels with saturated fats.
That can’t be good to completely eliminate it from your diet, just like I wouldn’t load my diet to 70% saturated like alot of Americans do. Like always, its all in balance…but to avoid it doesn’t make any sense either.
I really wonder if modern medical science is actually saving more lives than it’s taking.
I dont eliminate it, i eat some eggs, alot of fish and some occasional natty peanut butter. While not eliminating it, i try not to eat very much of it. My body prefers high carb/protein and low fat type diet
The problems with this are the type of saturated fat and the fact that the resulting high blood sugar would lead to inflammation by itself. Some saturated fats are pro-inflammatory, and some are anti-inflammatory, just like the subtypes of of MUFA and PUFA. Making blanket statements about any kind of fat, saturated or otherwise, just doesn’t make sense.
[quote]Force wrote:
How bad can it be to indulge in an occasional meal or snack loaded with saturated fat?
How about bad enough to diminish your body’s ability to defend itself against heart disease.
A recent study by researchers at the University of Sydney in Australia found just that reaction after 14 trial participants, all healthy and between the ages of 18 and 40, ate just one piece of high-fat carrot cake and drank a milkshake.
to protect the inner lining of the arteries from inflammatory agents that promote the build-up of fatty plaques. It’s this plaque that, over time, clogs blood vessels and causes heart disease.
“Saturated-fat meals might predispose to inflammation of, and plaque buildup in, the vessels,” said study leader Dr. David Celermajer, Scandrett professor of cardiology at the Heart Research Institute and the Department of Cardiology at Royal Prince Alfred Hospital.
Found this interesting but it’s a small sample size. Personally, I will never go out of my way to eat saturated fat. Ever. Superman shorts made some good points to me.[/quote]
[quote]Force wrote:
How bad can it be to indulge in an occasional meal or snack loaded with saturated fat?
How about bad enough to diminish your body’s ability to defend itself against heart disease.
A recent study by researchers at the University of Sydney in Australia found just that reaction after 14 trial participants, all healthy and between the ages of 18 and 40, ate just one piece of high-fat carrot cake and drank a milkshake.
to protect the inner lining of the arteries from inflammatory agents that promote the build-up of fatty plaques. It’s this plaque that, over time, clogs blood vessels and causes heart disease.
“Saturated-fat meals might predispose to inflammation of, and plaque buildup in, the vessels,” said study leader Dr. David Celermajer, Scandrett professor of cardiology at the Heart Research Institute and the Department of Cardiology at Royal Prince Alfred Hospital.
Found this interesting but it’s a small sample size. Personally, I will never go out of my way to eat saturated fat. Ever. Superman shorts made some good points to me.[/quote]
Here is an example of a BAD study that illustrates what swordthrower was criticizing. It is not the sample size that is the problem though. Saturated fat, the factor of supposed interest, is confounded with sugar and refined flour.
You cannot give people CARROT CAKE and MILKSHAKES and then logically make conclusions about SATURATED FAT! You can only make conclusions about carrot cake and milkshakes. This is the classic logical error of overgeneralizing. You have to manipulate saturated fat independently. And you have to compare to a control.
To do this right, they should have given a control “meal” of carrot cake and milkshakes that were, say, 60% fat (?) but with no saturated fat. Then on another day with the same 14 participants they should have given carrot cake and milkshakes with the same fat % but high in saturated fat. This design keeps the participants the same (so you don’t have to have very many), and ALL OTHER ASPECTS of the food the same, and manipulates only saturated fat.
But conclusions can be made only after eliminating all other possible explanations.
So, even if negative results were seen only after the saturated fat version of carrot cake and milkshakes, additional experiments must be done with other foods, like coconut, fatty beef, etc. because it’s possible that an interaction between saturated fat and, say, sugar is the culprit. If lots of foods with saturated fat were to show the same pattern, you could start to believe it is the saturated fat causing it.
This “study” was a complete waste of time and money. It is garbage like this that does give science a bad rap.
(Actually, after this rant I realized it is possible that the study was well designed but just not fully reported in the above article excerpt. But if not, it is worthless.)
This is very true. Also, in any given healthy meal, you are going to/should have some unsaturated fat which is anti-inflammatory, particulary Omega-3 polyunsaturated fat.
[quote]Schwarzenegger wrote:
The problems with this are the type of saturated fat and the fact that the resulting high blood sugar would lead to inflammation by itself. Some saturated fats are pro-inflammatory, and some are anti-inflammatory, just like the subtypes of of MUFA and PUFA. Making blanket statements about any kind of fat, saturated or otherwise, just doesn’t make sense.
Force wrote:
How bad can it be to indulge in an occasional meal or snack loaded with saturated fat?
How about bad enough to diminish your body’s ability to defend itself against heart disease.
A recent study by researchers at the University of Sydney in Australia found just that reaction after 14 trial participants, all healthy and between the ages of 18 and 40, ate just one piece of high-fat carrot cake and drank a milkshake.
to protect the inner lining of the arteries from inflammatory agents that promote the build-up of fatty plaques. It’s this plaque that, over time, clogs blood vessels and causes heart disease.
“Saturated-fat meals might predispose to inflammation of, and plaque buildup in, the vessels,” said study leader Dr. David Celermajer, Scandrett professor of cardiology at the Heart Research Institute and the Department of Cardiology at Royal Prince Alfred Hospital.
Found this interesting but it’s a small sample size. Personally, I will never go out of my way to eat saturated fat. Ever. Superman shorts made some good points to me.
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Unless you are getting a very inordinately lopsided amount of one thing or another, your overall diet is much more important than concentrating on one piece, assuming the vast majority comes from unprocessed whole foods.