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Why Obama Won

First of all congratualtions to all of the liberals on the thread. It was your night last night.

The following is what I believe to be the reasons why Obama was reelected last evening.

It should be very obvious to everyone (as it is to those of us who have lived through many Presidential elections) that Brack Obama has not been treated the same as any other President, or candidate for the office of the Presidency. This is the single worst economy that we have seen since the great depression yet how many serious questions were asked of obama regarding the economy by the press?

Furthermore, how many tough questions were asked of Obama regarding his various foreign policy blunders including Benghazi? I submit to you that if any republican were to have a sitting Ambassador raped, tortured and murdered on his watch it would have been front page news in every newspaper and the lead story on every single broadcast outlet, as it should be.

Now follow that horrendous act with a half hearted cover up “it was a video that caused this” and the media would have been screaming for impeachment. Yet, it was not even an issue for old Barack. So the number one reason for Obama’s reelection is that his friends in the media ran exceptional cover for him and it worked out quite well!

Along with the media “cover-up” Nanny statedom is upon us. We no longer get to look ahead and think, “gee if this keeps going we’re going to be in trouble.” We are in trouble! It is very difficult to defeat someone who wants to hand you free things at someone else’s expense. You neither feel guilt for taking it, or understand that it’s coming from another hard working American soul.

Just like the screaming woman on the video. “I want some of that Obama money.” Interviewer: “Where does Obama get the money?” Screaming woman: “I don’t know he has a stash somewhere…” Oh my! Who voted for Obama in larger numbers than for Romney? Women! Why? Because there is something inside of almost every woman that secretly wants to be taken care of. The democratic party has risen to that “challenge” and has taken upon itself the title of “great distributor.” Just the other day I was talking to one of my employees about the election. She said unequivocally that she was voting for Obama.

I naturally asked why and she told me that she wanted free health insurance. Currently, I have a plan where I (the company) pays 75% and the employee pays 25%. But that’s not quite good enough for her. I then informed her that nothing is free in life and that in order for the government to give you something for “free” they must first take it from someone else. Her answer, “I don’t care as long as I get my medical bills paid.” And so it goes, the taste of “free stuff” can be intoxicating to those uninformed of where such a road will eventually take us.

Fnally, Obama tapped into a large number of 18-34 year olds who don’t know what their doing but are not at all afraid to do it. Recently a conservative interviewer was on a typical college campus asking people who they were going to vote for. Most, not surprisingly said Obama. But not one could give a single good reason why or name any accomplishment from his first four years as the reason. When asked why they would choose him, the typical answer, “Um…I dunno I just think he’s better.” But, they do know that obama was on Jon Stewart and “um…like Jon Stewart is really cool.”

And that is why Obama never addressed any of the serious issues, he never had to and he knew it all along! All he had to do was continue to run behind the media cover and make the left wing talk show circut and look, “really cool” while he was doing it. He didn’t have to run a “large” campaign because he knew his backers were largely small minded kids, nanny state recipients and powerful unions who would continue to reap big bucks should he be reelected. Therefore, voting for him regardless of his many failures. And of course, he was right!

Love him or hate him Mitt Romney was a serious candidate with both business and government success to his credit in turning bad situations into good ones. Moreover, he picked a very serious Vice Presidential candidate in Paul Ryan. A man who helped create a budget that could eventually lead us to economic freedom. The only problem is they were running for office during the wrong time period. Many people don’t want to be serious as that takes thinking, sacrifice and acting like an adult.

And none of those things are what this country is about any longer. We are about video games, texting our every worthless thought, facebook and a number of other silly past times that allow men to act like kids until they are well into their 30’s. Well, last night while the “kids” were voting for the cool candidate, “the chickens came home to roooooost!”

So, while I do congratulate the left for its great win last night I can’t help recalling an old proverb, “Be careful what you wish for as it might come true!”

Zeb

As I told my wife last night, it is not a single election that worries me about this country - but the fact that the society showed its’ brokenness by sending this candidate back in for 4 more years.

CNN’s final polling data:

Interesting note - looking at voting by income, Romney won the middle class. This election was supposed to be about the middle class, middle class, middle class - but turns out, the middle class didn’t get its preferred candidate.

I know i’m a foreigner, from a country where someone who self-identify as a socialist can be elected, but here is my take on this :

Nowadays, storytelling is everything.
The GOP has been storytelling the Apocalypse for years.
And that’s simply not the kind of story anguished people want to hear right now.
So, no matter how poor Obama’s record is, it was a losing bet.
Actually, i already said that on PWI, in october 2011 (here : http://tnation.T-Nation.com/hub/kamui#myForums/thread/4783091 ) and i stand by it.

Looking at the numbers, I’m actually surprised that Romney did so well, considering the fact the women, the young, the Latinos, the educated citizens of Megalopolis were not on his side.

Now, i think the main challenge of the GOP should be to start storytelling the truth, so to speak.

And it probably won’t be easy.

Obama won because Romney.

How am I doing?

[quote]LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:

How am I doing?[/quote]

Stupid and awful, as usual.

Blame the chair.

Maybe if republicans dropped the religious right and stopped being so socially conservative they might have a better chance. All the gay marriage stuff passed, 2 states legalized marijuana etc. There are more fiscally conservative, socially liberal voters than you may think. Worst economy since the Great Depression, my grandparents would disagree with you, they lived through it.

[quote]thunderbolt23 wrote:
CNN’s final polling data:

Interesting note - looking at voting by income, Romney won the middle class. This election was supposed to be about the middle class, middle class, middle class - but turns out, the middle class didn’t get its preferred candidate.[/quote]

How did he win the middle class when 60 percent of 50k a year and under voted Obama, as did 46 percent of those from 50-100k?

This is money per person, not per household, so I’m pretty sure that means the middle class went to Obama - those making less than 100k voted for Obama by a number of 54-44.

[quote]Rocky101 wrote:
Maybe if republicans dropped the religious right and stopped being so socially conservative they might have a better chance. All the gay marriage stuff passed, 2 states legalized marijuana etc. There are more fiscally conservative, socially liberal voters than you may think. Worst economy since the Great Depression, my grandparents would disagree with you, they lived through it. [/quote]

Would you change your principles just because they aren’t currently popular?

[quote]Rocky101 wrote:
Maybe if republicans dropped the religious right and stopped being so socially conservative they might have a better chance. All the gay marriage stuff passed, 2 states legalized marijuana etc. There are more fiscally conservative, socially liberal voters than you may think. Worst economy since the Great Depression, my grandparents would disagree with you, they lived through it. [/quote]

I agree with this. There seems to be a cultural shift and I honestly think age has a lot to do with it. Wasting your time ranting about how evil weed is doesn’t seem to have won the vote.

[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:

How did he win the middle class when 60 percent of 50k a year and under voted Obama, as did 46 percent of those from 50-100k?[/quote]

So, people who make individually $50k and household $100k (the $50k times 2) aren’t the typical middle class, by your lights?

“Less than 100k” isn’t the middle class - that grouping includes people who are below middle class.

There is no universal definition for the middle class, of course, but it’s been viewed as a household of about roughly $95k.

[quote]Rocky101 wrote:
Maybe if republicans dropped the religious right and stopped being so socially conservative they might have a better chance. All the gay marriage stuff passed, 2 states legalized marijuana etc. There are more fiscally conservative, socially liberal voters than you may think. Worst economy since the Great Depression, my grandparents would disagree with you, they lived through it. [/quote]

Several of us have been saying this for a little while now, but I think that as more time separates us from last night, the more it will be blamed on the evil liberal media and stupid liberal voters that do not understand anything rather than major flaws in Republican/conservative ideology that does not fit with the majority thinking of American voters, a majority that continues to grow.

[quote]Dr.Matt581 wrote:

[quote]Rocky101 wrote:
Maybe if republicans dropped the religious right and stopped being so socially conservative they might have a better chance. All the gay marriage stuff passed, 2 states legalized marijuana etc. There are more fiscally conservative, socially liberal voters than you may think. Worst economy since the Great Depression, my grandparents would disagree with you, they lived through it. [/quote]

Several of us have been saying this for a little while now, but I think that as more time separates us from last night, the more it will be blamed on the evil liberal media and stupid liberal voters that do not understand anything rather than major flaws in Republican/conservative ideology that does not fit with the majority thinking of American voters, a majority that continues to grow. [/quote]

Well, if last night doesn’t teach them, they are truly too stubborn to change so it really doesn’t matter.

[quote]Rocky101 wrote:

Maybe if republicans dropped the religious right and stopped being so socially conservative they might have a better chance. All the gay marriage stuff passed, 2 states legalized marijuana etc. There are more fiscally conservative, socially liberal voters than you may think. Worst economy since the Great Depression, my grandparents would disagree with you, they lived through it. [/quote]

That isn’t the main issue - the main issue is that the GOP doesn’t have high marks on fiscal issues or the protection of certain social programs.

The GOP could soften and moderate its social stance, but that isn’t the big driver of the party’s real electoral challenge.

One thing the GOP hasn’t done well is reach out to ethnic minorities - you think taking on the banner of gay marriage is going to help that? No. There are much bigger fish to fry that the GOP needs to work on in the electoral sense.

[quote]kamui wrote:

Now, i think the main challenge of the GOP should be to start storytelling the truth, so to speak.

And it probably won’t be easy.[/quote]

No it won’t be because the truth sucks to hear. It hurts.

Dang, what a post…

[quote]Dr.Matt581 wrote:

[quote]Rocky101 wrote:
Maybe if republicans dropped the religious right and stopped being so socially conservative they might have a better chance. All the gay marriage stuff passed, 2 states legalized marijuana etc. There are more fiscally conservative, socially liberal voters than you may think. Worst economy since the Great Depression, my grandparents would disagree with you, they lived through it. [/quote]

Several of us have been saying this for a little while now, but I think that as more time separates us from last night, the more it will be blamed on the evil liberal media and stupid liberal voters that do not understand anything rather than major flaws in Republican/conservative ideology that does not fit with the majority thinking of American voters, a majority that continues to grow. [/quote]

I have to disagree with you and X on this. How can you just abandon your principles?

The only solution I see is a multiple party system. Then people that are fiscally conservative, but socially progressive have a real shot at winning.

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]Rocky101 wrote:
Maybe if republicans dropped the religious right and stopped being so socially conservative they might have a better chance. All the gay marriage stuff passed, 2 states legalized marijuana etc. There are more fiscally conservative, socially liberal voters than you may think. Worst economy since the Great Depression, my grandparents would disagree with you, they lived through it. [/quote]

Would you change your principles just because they aren’t currently popular? [/quote]

Telling others how to live their lives is a principal? You can have your beliefs, just don’t push them on me and I won’t push mine on you.

[quote]thunderbolt23 wrote:
So, people who make individually $50k and household $100k (the $50k times 2) aren’t the typical middle class, by your lights?

[/quote]

They are, but because the numbers are per-voter income estimates, you can’t infer whether the household itself is middle class or not unless you’re drawing numbers from another source.

If you show me numbers that say “household income,” I’d look at it, but to say that from the CNN exit polls, the “middle class” did not get their guy, is an unsound argument.