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Why Not to Use a Suicide Grip

http://www.machovideo.com/video/Choked_by_weights_26879/

Why ignorant morons shouldnt use suicide grip.

http://www.machovideo.com/video/Idiot_crushed_by_weights_9995/
note the knee wraps

lulz x10…any more of these?

[quote]vali wrote:
Why ignorant morons shouldnt use suicide grip.[/quote]

If you showed that guy a similar clip a week before, he probably would have said the same thing. Its always someone else it will happen too.

[quote]on edge wrote:

[quote]vali wrote:
Why ignorant morons shouldnt use suicide grip.[/quote]

If you showed that guy a similar clip a week before, he probably would have said the same thing. Its always someone else it will happen too.[/quote]

Bullshit. The Russian guy who died a couple months ago after dropping a max attempt on his chest was using a closed grip.

I swear to god if I have to see one more thread about how dangerous the suicide grip is from the whaaaa police I’ll lose my damn mind.

Grow a fucking brain and bench in a power rack if it worries you…problem solved.

And thanks for this exciting and new video, OP. It certainly hasn’t been posted 5,000 times.

[quote]HeavyTriple wrote:

[quote]on edge wrote:

[quote]vali wrote:
Why ignorant morons shouldnt use suicide grip.[/quote]

If you showed that guy a similar clip a week before, he probably would have said the same thing. Its always someone else it will happen too.[/quote]

Bullshit. The Russian guy who died a couple months ago after dropping a max attempt on his chest was using a closed grip.

I swear to god if I have to see one more thread about how dangerous the suicide grip is from the whaaaa police I’ll lose my damn mind.

Grow a fucking brain and bench in a power rack if it worries you…problem solved.[/quote]

Relax. Just because someone died using a standard grip is irrelevant. Using a power rack to safely continue using a suicide grip is a great idea.

Is there a legitimate benefit to using a suicide grip?

[quote]Cortes wrote:
Is there a legitimate benefit to using a suicide grip? [/quote]

Yes. For me, it helped greatly with keeping the bar aligned with my wrists.

[quote]on edge wrote:

[quote]HeavyTriple wrote:

[quote]on edge wrote:

[quote]vali wrote:
Why ignorant morons shouldnt use suicide grip.[/quote]

If you showed that guy a similar clip a week before, he probably would have said the same thing. Its always someone else it will happen too.[/quote]

Bullshit. The Russian guy who died a couple months ago after dropping a max attempt on his chest was using a closed grip.

I swear to god if I have to see one more thread about how dangerous the suicide grip is from the whaaaa police I’ll lose my damn mind.

Grow a fucking brain and bench in a power rack if it worries you…problem solved.[/quote]

Relax. Just because someone died using a standard grip is irrelevant. Using a power rack to safely continue using a suicide grip is a great idea.[/quote]

No, it’s not irrelevant. People always assert that a “suicide” grip is dangerous whenever I’ve seen just as many benches get dropped with a thumbed grip. Therefore, you can’t draw a correlation one way or the other.

Lets see here, suicide grip and thumb grip are now just as dangerous as each other.

hmm, yes.

BULLSHIT. Stupid argument, stupid logic.

[quote]xjusticex2013x wrote:
I’ve seen just as many benches get dropped with a thumbed grip. [/quote]

I doubt it. Maybe if you’ve just seen one bench get dropped. Most people never see it live so your limited experience means nothing. If I go do a search on Youtube 9 out of 10 will be thumbless. That’s significant.

I don’t want any of you here to use the suicide grip. I care about y’all, please, please, for your own safety DON’T DO IT.

[quote]xjusticex2013x wrote:

[quote]Cortes wrote:
Is there a legitimate benefit to using a suicide grip? [/quote]

Yes. For me, it helped greatly with keeping the bar aligned with my wrists.[/quote]

Agreed, i actually can lift more with more comfort with that grip. When I was competing I never used it except with warm ups just out of fear. Even now I will not use it for no other reason than fear of the slip.

[quote]Cortes wrote:
Is there a legitimate benefit to using a suicide grip? [/quote]

Many including M-Meat think its easier on the joints and better at distributing force. The only reason I don’t use it is its not allowed in USAPL. If my fed allowed it, I’d use it.

The grip plays a factor, but the spotter is just as much at fault. You don’t just rip the bar out of the hooks like that and definitely don’t let go until the bencher has set himself correctly.

Never the less, I use a suicide grip with thumb pointing inwards grasped on the bar. Gives a little more traction and many times easier on my wrist.

Thumbless grips work better for my wrist on bench and OHP, so I use 'em. Of coure, I do bench in a power rack so I can at least drop one side and shove the other up.

was there a guy in a cowboy hat at the last second running over to help? hahaha

[quote]on edge wrote:

[quote]xjusticex2013x wrote:
I’ve seen just as many benches get dropped with a thumbed grip. [/quote]

I doubt it. Maybe if you’ve just seen one bench get dropped. Most people never see it live so your limited experience means nothing. If I go do a search on Youtube 9 out of 10 will be thumbless. That’s significant.[/quote]

Have you seen it live? Just curious.

After searching “dropped bench” on YouTube, these were some results for the first two pages:

Although the quality sucks, I think I can make out a thumbed grip.

USPF. Nuff said.

Thumbed.

Thumbless.

And of course that infamous free-fall bench drop with the thumbless grip. This may or may not also be worth noting, the YouTube results were pretty diluted with other videos that had nothing to do with lifting, as I’m sure you could imagine.

I’m not saying that using a thumbless grip carries zero risk of a drop, but clearly that is also not the case with a thumbed grip. Unless you want to give up benching altogether, I’d suggest to others to find which grip works best for them, don’t rush it, take the time to properly set their hands each set. Failure to do so can lead to a slip with or without thumbs.