For me getting off is a very fresh and recent decision and it boils down to that I can get the same effect from good eating and good training.[/quote]
I wonder - just how many cycles you have done and what your stats were before and what they are now…
I only ask because if you are of the opinion that you cannot improve more on AAS than without them, then you clearly haven’t used them long - or haven’t used them correctly - likely both.
No flame - its just that your post, even if it is ‘just your opinion’ - is wrong mate.
It is known that if you use androgens above your own level (or any anabolic hormone), you will be eventually able to progress to a higher level than would have ever been possible naturally.
How many 2% and 240lb lifetime natty BB’s are there out there?