Dont kick start as was said.
Use it once the test is already hitting hard and you will see nice responses.
Anyone who says dbol doesn't produce anything but strength and water when added to test and deca and tren, etc.
Is a fool.
Granted you see IMMEDIATE strength and water, thats not really permanent, but the growth comes faster than with test alone.
Dbol is cheap, and stupid effective for most.
Even if you didnt grow from it directly at all (and you do), for its cost, the strength (which would help the test build more mass), aggression, energy, mood boost, and appetite would still be worth the piddly cost of the drug.
I dont cut with dbol because i like to see the fruits of my labor as I go.
But I cut with higher test every-time as a base.
And you damn well could cut with dbol, some do, youd just have to wait a week to piss out all the water after the cycle to really clearly see how lean you were.