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Why Can't Everyone Be Huge?

This might be a little too simplistic, but i’ve heard a quote before from an extremely good marathoner who was just your average american who sucked as a high schooler say “You can do the same thing as me, we both were born with the same bones, lungs, heart, muscles, etc.” something to that extent, not exactly, but you get my point. My question is, why couldn’t anyone who wanted to get this big? Were we not made out of the same skin, muscle, bone, heart, brain, etc? Someone explain why this might not be true, if possible.

IDK but my guess would be that some people put that much more effort and heart into there training then others, and even follow a better diet. There are things that will set people apart from one another.

Anyone can pretty much get as big as they want. The real issue is how far you have to go to get there and what you’re willing to sacrifice.

It’s like the famous quote about becoming rich, something along the lines of ‘it’s easy to make a lot of money if money is all you want.’

Think about it.

This has been discussed a lot lately actually. But it comes down to genetic traits that you are born with that will limit, or propell you to the top. If we put someone like a young Jevon Kearse and much younger Woody Allen on the same program and could monitor them day in and out, same foods same weights same everything, Kearse is going to be lightyears ahead of Woody Allen no matter how hard he tries.

Everyone can make dramatic changes to their physique if they put in the TIME and have COSISTENCY which are the keys.

Over use of the smith machine is to blame. I keed, I keed the smith machine!

  1. As others have said it’s a huge effort and not everyone has that desire or goal.

  2. Genetics do play a large role IMO as scottiscool pointed out with the Woody Allen example.

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You can do the same thing as me, we both were born with the same bones, lungs, heart, muscles, etc."

This quote is true to an extent we all do have things that are classified as bones, lungs, heart, and muscles… but obviously everyone’s organ systems are not built the same as u consider at a progessively smaller scale or more specific scale especially once u get down to the biochemical level.

just as ppl are differentially predisposed to various ailments so to are ppl predisposed to different growth and strength abilities. Genetics will essentially set ur limits while enviroment will determine how close you come to reaching ur genetic potential

Some people have no real concept of what hard work is. I see it at my gym all the time. Some kids tells me he’s training hard as he talks through a set of shoulder presses. When I finish a set, I’m cramping so hard I almost double over. Others don’t realize the time investment required. When I worked as a trainer, younger guys would ask me how many MONTHS would it take for them to get ripped -lol

-S

If by huge you mean carrying a large amount of muscle mass for their frame, then I’d say yes it’s definitely possible for everyone to get huge.

  1. Not everyone may want that. For example, when I look at top end bodybuilders, I’m like wow that’s impressive but I’m glad I don’t look like that. Some of the quad and lat spreads at the higher end are to my thinking not aesthetically pleasing.

  2. The amount and duration of effort required to get “huge” is more than it’s worth to many people.

  3. The rate and difficulty at which you progress is, at least in some part, controlled by your genetics. Though many use this a crutch and excuse far more often than is warranted.

About two thirds of Americans are obese. So yeah…everyone is huge.

http://mikeaustin.org/thereturnofscipio/wp-content/uploads/2006/11/obese.jpg

wow, it’s reached 2/3? That’s a huge percentage that I am glad to not be a part of.

[quote]joburnet wrote:
About two thirds of Americans are obese. So yeah…everyone is huge.

http://mikeaustin.org/thereturnofscipio/wp-content/uploads/2006/11/obese.jpg [/quote]

tht’s false, i did a paper on this last spring and the amount of pbese people was in the 20% area of the population, your telling me it ju,ped to 66% in a few months bull fucking shit

I believe it is much higher than 20%. I heard reports in the 40-50% range and just by a simple test of walking through the grocery store I’d say that’s being conservative haha. I go to school in one of the consistently fatest states though so I see the worst we have to offer.

[quote]scottiscool wrote:
I believe it is much higher than 20%. I heard reports in the 40-50% range and just by a simple test of walking through the grocery store I’d say that’s being conservative haha. I go to school in one of the consistently fatest states though so I see the worst we have to offer. [/quote]

i just looked it up 33% of americans are obese. Many more are overweight, but obesity and being over weight are 2 different thing. I think once you’re 25 pounds over “normal” weight you are considered obese. I’ll tell you what I’m over 25 pounds above my normal weight and I’m happy about it ;), and im sure many people on this site are too.

here’s my source for refrence.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21101876/ im sure it’s pretty credible as msnbc is a leading news company and the article is dated oct 2. 2007. It’s about health care costs but discusses obesity.

Distribution of muscle fiber types has a lot to do with it (genetics).

2 things that determine size:

  1. Genetics
  2. The Mind (includes dedication, smart training, smart nutrition, etc.)

What’s really funny is that 20 years ago most guys weren’t ever going to get as big as they thought they could while today most can be a whole lot bigger than they want to be.

Everybody can’t be huge for the same reason every bike rider can’t be Lance Armstrong. Your friend doesn’t know what he’s talking about. At the high level of any sport the training among athletes is virtually identical, and it comes down to the genetics.

…cuz I said so…duh

[quote]austin_bicep wrote:
joburnet wrote:
About two thirds of Americans are obese. So yeah…everyone is huge.

http://mikeaustin.org/thereturnofscipio/wp-content/uploads/2006/11/obese.jpg

tht’s false, i did a paper on this last spring and the amount of pbese people was in the 20% area of the population, your telling me it ju,ped to 66% in a few months bull fucking shit[/quote]

According to the CDC, 66% of US adults are either obese or overweight.

About one third of US adults are obese.

http://www.cdc.gov/nccdphp/dnpa/obesity/

So yes I was wrong, I should have changed my statement to:

About two thirds of Americans are obese or overweight. So yeah…everyone is huge.

[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
What’s really funny is that 20 years ago most guys weren’t ever going to get as big as they thought they could while today most can be a whole lot bigger than they want to be.[/quote]

Here’s a funny story I found on one of the Vince Gironda websites.

John Milius sent Gary Busey to work with Vince in order to get ready for “The Big Wednesday”. Once he got there Gary saw a photo of Arnold doing a most muscular pose.

Gary Busey: “I don’t want to look like that”
Vince Gironda: “Don’t worry, we’ll stop just before you get to look like that”.