You aren’t planning on capturing and holding terrorists families overseas?
thunderbolt23:Hillary getting elected might just make things better medium and long term as you note, it’d make sense to pull the lever for Hillary as a contrarian but strategic vote to put things in motion for a better 2018 and beyond.[/quote]
Uh huh…yes TB we understand you think it’s better if Hillary wins in November in the “medium and long term” I see. Don’t you feel better now for actually coming out with what you’ve thought all along?
[quote]But, as I have said before, I can’t vote for someone like Hillary. The mere act of casting the vote - smart as it may be, as you note - is anathema to me at this point.
Just because you think it would be better in the “medium and long term:” does not mean you’d vote for her…of course not.
At least it is now out in the open and everyone is aware of why you’ve been doing all the Trump bashing. It was rather obvious that you’ve been dead set against Trump but not so much against Hillary. Now we all know.
You think she’d be better in “the medium and long term”
Got it.
It’s nice that after a barrage of 40 posts the truth comes out.
If that isn’t the most absurd twisting of a post in PWI history, I don’t know what is. God lord man…
If that isn’t the most absurd twisting of a post in PWI history, I don’t know what is. God lord man
It’s good that you’re sticking up for your leader. But please tell me how I twisted it. Those are his exact words.
Capturing and holding terrorists families who were well aware of the crime that their relative was going to commit and did nothing to prevent out right murder is a very reasonable act to take.
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Might gain valuable information regarding future terrorists attacks.
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Will demonstrate to other families of terrorists that the US is serious about preventing terrorism which could prevent future terror attacks from even occurring as the families will realize that they now must turn in their family member BEFORE he kills someone.
therajraj: anon50325502: therajraj: anon50325502:@therajraj how do you plan on arresting and holding the families of terrorist while simultaneous scaling the military back and cutting NATO funding and resources?
If he means bombing villages of the families then I don’t support that. If he means holding terrorist families on the US soil, I’d support that.
Okay. How do you plan on accomplish this while pulling troops, resources, and money out of Europe, The Middle East, and Asia? Isn’t that what you were advocating in this or another thread?
I’m saying for terrorist families presently located in the US
You aren’t planning on capturing and holding terrorists families overseas?
How would you even get access to them without an exhaustive search. Look how long it took to find Bin Laden. By the time you did if you did it would probably be too late
That’s great and all, but those aren’t the illegal orders he was insisting he could get our soldiers to follow (I guess because he’s just so damn Alpha).
anon50325502:If that isn’t the most absurd twisting of a post in PWI history, I don’t know what is. God lord man
But please tell me how I twisted it. Those are his exact words.
You’re an unbelievably dishonest person.
It’s good that you’re sticking up for your leader.
This is just plain dumb.
anon50325502: therajraj: anon50325502: therajraj: anon50325502:@therajraj how do you plan on arresting and holding the families of terrorist while simultaneous scaling the military back and cutting NATO funding and resources?
If he means bombing villages of the families then I don’t support that. If he means holding terrorist families on the US soil, I’d support that.
Okay. How do you plan on accomplish this while pulling troops, resources, and money out of Europe, The Middle East, and Asia? Isn’t that what you were advocating in this or another thread?
I’m saying for terrorist families presently located in the US
You aren’t planning on capturing and holding terrorists families overseas?
How would you even get access to them without an exhaustive search. Look how long it took to find Bin Laden. By the time you did if you did it would probably be too late
That’s my point. It would take a lot of resources just to find them let alone extract them. Trump was talking about going after the families of ISIS in The Middle East. My question was how do you plan to do that while also pulling out of Europe/NATO?
Might gain valuable information regarding future terrorists attacks.
That’s a big might.
Will demonstrate to other families of terrorists that the US is serious about preventing terrorism which could prevent future terror attacks from even occurring as the families will realize that they now must turn in their family member BEFORE he kills someone.
It could easily have the opposite effect.
therajraj: anon50325502: therajraj: anon50325502: therajraj: anon50325502:@therajraj how do you plan on arresting and holding the families of terrorist while simultaneous scaling the military back and cutting NATO funding and resources?
If he means bombing villages of the families then I don’t support that. If he means holding terrorist families on the US soil, I’d support that.
Okay. How do you plan on accomplish this while pulling troops, resources, and money out of Europe, The Middle East, and Asia? Isn’t that what you were advocating in this or another thread?
I’m saying for terrorist families presently located in the US
You aren’t planning on capturing and holding terrorists families overseas?
How would you even get access to them without an exhaustive search. Look how long it took to find Bin Laden. By the time you did if you did it would probably be too late
That’s my point. It would take a lot of resources just to find them let alone extract them. Trump was talking about going after the families of ISIS in The Middle East. My question was how do you plan to do that while also pulling out of Europe/NATO?
I wouldn’t!!! N
I wouldn’t!!! N
Okay, thanks for clarifying.
You’re an unbelievably dishonest person.
I quoted him verbatim you claimed that I somehow wronged him. I asked you politely to point out where and you comeback with this nonsense?
I’ll ask you once more where I erred. If you have nothing just say it and we will move on.
[quote]It could easily have the opposite effect.
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What the hell is that supposed to mean? HUH? It could easily have a very positive effect in stopping innocent blood from being shed.
My gosh you can say that about almost any act taken during war.
Might gain valuable information regarding future terrorists attacks.
That’s a big might.
And if we don’t what is lost? And if we do then we save lives.
Do you just like disagreeing with me for the sake of it?
so damn Alpha.
Setting aside policy disagreements this specific quality is much more important than you might think.
Setting aside policy disagreements this specific quality is much more important than you might think.
Especially after having basically a Professor in charge for the past 8 years.
Edit (referring to Alpha male)
That’s my point. It would take a lot of resources just to find them let alone extract them. Trump was talking about going after the families of ISIS in The Middle East. My question was how do you plan to do that while also pulling out of Europe/NATO?
First, he was clearly talking about targeting them to kill. Again, see the context of the questioner’s question. Second, exactly! The question is about our SOLDIERS. Not the FBI here at home, or something.
[quote]It could easily have the opposite effect.
What the hell is that supposed to mean? HUH? It could easily have a very positive effect in stopping innocent blood from being shed.
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Are you serious? It could very easily drive more to join the cause against a government they see is oppressing them causing more blood shed.
And if we don’t what is lost?
Our honor. Our principles. Our dignity as a nation. The moral high ground. Foreign concepts for you I know.
And if we do then we save lives.
Maybe. Maybe more lives are lost because we drove recruitment up by imprisoning civilians.
I quoted him verbatim you claimed that I somehow wronged him. I asked you politely to point out where and you comeback with this nonsense?
I’ll ask you once more where I erred. If you have nothing just say it and we will move on.
Completely dishonest, I’m not holding your hand here.
“Exactly what I thought, you’ve got nothing” You can save your rebuttal.
Do you just like disagreeing with me for the sake of it?
Only when you say dumb things.
There is a derangement syndrome at work here, that much is true, but it is Thunderbolt Derangement Syndrome.