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Why 9/11 Conspiracies Won't Go Away


#1

"If we went to war to root out fictional weapons of mass destruction, is staging a fictional terrorist attack such a stretch?"

"The population of world No. 2 is larger than you might think. A Scripps-Howard poll of 1,010 adults last month found that 36% of Americans consider it "very likely" or "somewhat likely" that government officials either allowed the attacks to be carried out or carried out the attacks themselves. Thirty-six percent adds up to a lot of people. This is not a fringe phenomenon. It is a mainstream political reality."

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1531304,00.html


#2

Conspiricy theories on their face are usually absurd. This one is absurd to a grotesque degree.
The film is there. The audio tapes are there. Fakes. Bin Laden says, "I did it. There will be more." Fake. Muslims around the world dance in the streets when the towers fall? Mere coincidence that they'd play along so well. We uncover the entire plan? We know the name of the people that did it? Balderdash! They were were unwitting dupes, willing to die for Bush and his cronies!
The problem with conspiricies is that they involve a lot of people. Something like this would have to involve so many people in so many areas of civilian and military life it would be impossible to keep it a secret. Some credible evidence would be brought forward by someone.

The same is true with the Kennedy Assasination. It's been 43 years now. No evidence. All theory and conjecture. But the evidence? it says something else. All of the theories have been disproven. The ONLY thing that makes sense is the Lee Harvey Oswald did it. Alone. From the Texas School Book Depository. Case Closed. That's also the name of the definitive book on the subject. Read it. Good book whether you belive in conspiricy or not. You won't, in this case, after you read it. Hopefully, after this stuff escalates to even more ridiculous proportions with 9/11, someone will write a similar book dispelling all the nutty theories that people simply WANT to believe in.


#3

Every Democrat in America needs to read UNHINGED: Exposing LIBERALS GONE WILD and TAKE IT BACK: OUR PARTY, OUR COUNTRY, OUR FUTURE.

The first is Michelle Malkin's collection of the pure insanity that has taken ahold of the Democratic party in the last 6 years. From the total hate-filled vile that spews from their mouths and keyboards to the never ending string of conspiracy theories the buy into, it covers it all.

The second is by James Carville and Paul Begala and is pretty much a game plan for taking the party away from loons like the original poster.

Until there is a viable third party, it would be nice to at least have a sane Democratic party to help keep the Republicans true to their beliefs.


#4

Enough said.


#5

You must live in a parallel universe.

In the real world, the GOP is run by evil mad men. They lied to get a war going and now they can't handle it.

But back to the conspiracy theories.

I've got one.

It's quite obvious that there wasn't a conspiracy to allow the attacks. It was just incompetence.

Bush didn't allow Katrina either. But his incompetence, and his way of promoting incompetent friends to high level posts, sure allowed for far more damage.

So while Bush didn't allow the attacks, he jumped at the opportunity they gave him. It's on the record that immediatly after the attacks, he wanted, demanded, intelligence to link it to Iraq.

And he did link the attacks to Iraq. We know now (well, Effr0 still doesn't, but he really doesn't count now, does he). We know now Saddam didn't have anything to do with the attacks.

He used the attacks like Hitler used the burning of the Reichstag. There were rumours he allowed it to be burned, but there is no proof. There is proof however that he jumped at the opportunity it gave him.

On the other hand, Americans love conspiracy theories. Did you ever hear that the SETI project (which is a privately funded and has been a pet-project for UFO watchers and star gazers for decades) is claimed to have established contact with aliens, but they are covering it up.
Well, that says it all, doesn't it?


#6

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060907/ap_on_re_mi_ea/al_jazeera_bin_laden_tape


#7

Some conspiracies the left has bought into in the last 6 years (with some of the prominent Dems who have promoted the nonsense):

9/11--Bush was warned ahead of time by the Saudis (Howard Dean, Cynthia McKinney).

9/11--Bush did it to either help Haliburton or to get us into Iraq. (Ted Kennedy)

9/11--Israel did it just because they are evil.

The capture of Saddam Hussein was staged. {Washington Congressman Jim McDermott)

Saddam Hussein was captured, but was being held until closer to the 2004 election.

Bin Laden is in custody and would be brought out for the 2004 election. (Madeline Albright)

Karl Rove was behind CBS News' "Rathergate" mess. (New York Rep. Maurice Hinchey, Terry McAulliffe)

Karl Rove caused Sen. Paul Wellstone's deadly plane crash.

Karl Rove was planting WMDs in Iraq. (BuzzFlash.com)

Karl Rove (in cahoots with al-Jazeera) released Osama bin Laden's videotape in late October 2004. (Walter Cronkite)

Karl Rove tricked Newsweek into running it's false story about the Koran being desecrated at Gitmo. (Keith Olbermann, Craig Crawford, Norman Mailer)

The strap on Bush's bullet proof vest was actually a battery pack for a hidden earpiece Rove used to feed the president answers during the first debate with Kerry. (Salon.com, Mother Jones, Washington Post)

Bush would institute a draft after being re-elected. (a segment on MTV's Choose or Lose and Rock the Vote, Max Cleland, Tim Ryan, Howard Dean, John Kerry, CBS News, NBC News)

Diebold Corporation and it's evil Republican CEO stole the election in 2004. (Teresa Heinz Kerry, Congressmen John Conyers, Jerrold Nadler, and Robert Wexler)
[Of course, Diebold's election-system division chief is a Democrat and Diebold's director of marketing is a huge contributor to only Democrat candidates, including John Kerry]

Ohio Secretary of State (black Republican Kenneth Blackwell) fixed the Ohio election (Jesse Jackson)


#8

Ok enough is enough. Stop the bullshit about conspiracy. We all know some of you don't like the President for some of his actions and or beliefs, but you don't need to go to such lengths to make him look bad. It just makes you look silly and immature.

If there is anyone to blame for the lack help in New Orleans it is the New Orleans people and Mayor Nagin. You know what, they elected him again so shame on them. The day after Katrina they're were gang wars and mass looting. The people of New Orleans, instead of banding together, fell apart into selfish scumbags with violence and disrespect.


#9

I heard the response from the aliens was: "Great, who let our meat have fucking computers, anyway?"