Who will pass away first? Authur Jones or Joe Weider? Jones is more of a mystery man than Weider. Jones will do some crazy stunt I’m sure. I wonder what will come out after their deaths regarding bodybuilding, Mentzer brothers, roids & all the hot topics & stories? Will be interesting to see.
ALSO! Who has done more for bodybuilding? I would have to say Jones has by far! [/quote]
I would say that I totally wasted 5 years trying to follow Jones principles to the letter, and only wasted 2 years trying to train like Arnold.
By the way, Arnold said that he took every set to failure, and in his advanced training workout he did over 700 sets per week.
The concept of one set to failure is about the most unscientific concept in weight training. It is a logic puzzle that you should be able to trick a 4th grader into believing is valid logic, but starts with one basic assumed premise that is wrong: That all muscle/nerve/tendon adaptations require the same stimulus and recovery.
Even Jones wrote that Viator never did a set close his potential. He was all over the place in reps. He did a certain weight in the 45 degree leg press for like 15 reps one time, and over 70 the next time, and Jones said himself that he had to stop because of pain, not failure. He had Viator supersetting 3 exercises for 12-20 reps for legs. Why would he need three? How long do you think he paused between reps when he finished a set of 500 squats for 13? We don’t know. One could argue that he did 13 single rep sets. When he stopped at 13, do you think he could have done 475 for another rep? Probably. With a max of maybe 750, he may have only been 30% deep into his ability.
Also, the concept that different exercises do not affect different parts of a muscle is also wrong, even given a true full range of motion. In leg extensions for example, because of synergystic facilitation (or lack therof) you can not produce even a single maximal contraction. Same with any isolation exercise. Also, pennante muscles involve different forces along different lines with different movements.