I am really happy to see these posts that are answering what I am looking for. I am not about to write a diet biography, because it would look fictional, especially since my first diet was when i was eight years old, but even before that, when I was six i swore off McDonalds because it was too average to me. I didn't know anything then, and I have come a long way from being both anorexic 110 pounds to a whopping 300 plus pounds that wasn't even from eating.
I have sustained almost every physique goal I wanted. i have done many diets all with the success they promised- from weight watchers to ud2 to carb cycling, and all to what lead me to this post. In fact, i have been wanting to post this for months now, and each time I tried typing it I knew how wrong it looked.
I stopped going to the gym tree years ago, and with just a barbell and weights is when I just started seeing the results that I could not obtain in the 12 years at a gym. I stopped going to that gym because they didn't like how my training routines became. They didn't allow barefoot training, which I swear by. Quitting my gym was the best thing.
I have been trying to keep my bodyfat as low as I can, I stopped measuring it years ago because it fed too much into eating disorders. i just go by what I can and can't see. The same goes for my weight. It's about what I can see. Most of the time, I am usually in the single digits. It is hard to stay there, but I manage. It does put a halt to the parts of my goals as far as putting more muscle on. I have had my bodyfat so low at the time I was going to my gym that their special contraption couldn't register it, and they had to find some "specialist" to take it, and they claimed at the time I didn't have any, but I know that's not possible.
My thing was, and is...how can I keep my levels so low and still put on muscle. I have tried the whole foods ideas, I have tried many different variables, and I won't stop. Last summer I had myself training over two hours - no supplements, except vitamins, and I did make some progress, but I couldn't take the extra body fat, because I know I can do better. The only thing different was I allowed whole eggs, and I used cottage cheese instead of caesin before bed. -this is an abbreviated version...I experimented with that, as well. I got rid of that extra body fat by eliminting the yolks and switching back to caesin.
I did not go the whole whole food route, because I know to get all the vitamins that would mean using fruit, and I consider fruit sugar, and I DO gain weight from even fruit. I do not use carbs or fat, regularly, because when I do, it's good bye cuts.
Right now, I am in the middle of it, and it's fine, but I like to take things to another level.
Big deal I can reach that cut goal with my own dietary/training program, but I know there is more to it.
I do not use whey after a work out, I usually use fat free chicken or fat free turkey and a bjs wholesale bag of romaine. I am too hungry for a whey drink. I am too hungry all the time anyway. Whoever says fill up on vegetables is full of it. Vegetables do not fill me. I eat a pound of broccoli before bed after my caesin, and I have had the whole 3 pound bag at times, but never full. It's after a gallon or two of water that fills me, but only until I go...and that's just it.
I suck it up and make myself deal with it. I have my free days, as I don't call them cheat days anymore, and while not getting into that, even those fill me for the moment, but after I wake up from my free meal slumber I want more, but I don't because I know the repercussions of that.
Right now, I am fine with where I am, but I do want to see what more I can do with more solutions and answers. I will keep experimenting, I will keep trying things. It doesn't matter. I work out just so I can eat. I eat clean just so I can have that free meal. I also do it so i don't get fat, and fat to me is when I can't see striations in my shoulders or chest.
I know that training hard is where the results are. I know there is no secret rep/set. I don't actually do programs, because I learned, from this site especially, that consistency is key, and switch things up when applicable. I train every day, even though it's not supposed to be, I believe that its best for me to train each day. Rest is for bed time.
I am interested in seeing more articles about whole foods on this site to better understand things I will gain knowledge from. I eat 25 g protein every three hours with spinach, romaine, cabbage, or broccoli, I stay away from fats and carbs, and that's where I stay single digit body fat. I train one hour a day for now. Supplements for now are noxplode, optimen multi, fountain of youth hgh, and eurycoma. That is just in case anyone asks what I am doing.
I did write a lot more than I wanted to, but usually with posts like this come questions I rather get out of the way.
I am all ready seeing a lot o the answers, and I want to thank you all for the input. I did not realize so many people feel the way I feel at times about supplements. I was worried that I might offend someone by asking these things. I just fixed my giant paragraph to make everyone happy, as well.