White Privilege

Nah. She has those thick eyebrows and you could drive a logging truck over the bridge of he nose.

Dead giveaways!

If you have a massive continent rich in natural resources, a native population decimated by successive diseases, no serious threat on both southern and northern borders and major powers an ocean away - then yes, Englishmen claiming to be spiritual successors of Parlamentarians can afford themselves the luxury of contemplating whether they’re subject to something they would call tyranny (taxes? really?) just after their brethren in the old country waged a hugely expensive seven year long world war to protect their interests and had the nerve to ask them to foot a small part of the bill.

And by the way, there was thing that was officially called “brotherhood and unity” where you were supposed to look past ethnicity and religion. Didn’t work. As soon as the money ran out (socialism) people realized that a) either their tribe stands to lose a lot or b) had a lot to gain economically if the political landscape changes.

Nature? It’s an overlapping distribution so for those in the overlap it’s a matter of social convention. Examples listed above.

An hour long walk through Beirut’s downtown would make you forget the eyebrows and contemplate conversion, at least to Eastern Orthodoxy


Natural rights and equal rights and justice under the law, etc. is hard stuff to put in practice when so many still adhere to antediluvian nonsense like ethnic superiority. Unfortunately, the ideals of the Western Enlightenment haven’t spread as far and wide as an optimist would hope.

That said, there’s a reason why the USA is a shining city on a hill, and should keep its doors open to anyone who shares he ideas and principles.

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You seem tyrranical.

Do you see why one would think that?

I’ll set aside what I believe to be an inaccurate depiction of the Founding - the idea that a bunch of bored, easyliving philosophers were privileged enough to have the spare time to demand a constitutuonal republic. My point about about modern countries riven by ethnic strife, etc. is that they have the benefit of the history of the US, which includes the successes and the mistakes. They have a 200+ year playbook of best practices to copy - they wouldn’t be making a liberal society from scratch in the 18th century.

Nope.

It was hyperbolic, but the fact remains they were considered fellow Englishmen. Had it not been so and had any other world power been in place of the British, it would have ended after Franklin’s first article with a bunch of people dismembered.

Ok, but they don’t have a sparsely populated continent. Humanity can play that game again on Mars hopefully, but the US, like any other country or empire, is the product of unique geographical factors and historical developments and simply cannot be replicated in a petri dish.

I concur that it’s a shining example, and that’s why it’s unique and non-replicable characteristics are so valuable. That’s why you get that feeling of disappointment from non-Americans, when under Trump US started behaving like any regular empire.

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What if an ethnic or racial group moves into a town in large numbers and the preceding residents start leaving? Should they be forced to stay?

On this, I agree 100% - which is why I am so skeptical of “exporting democracy”. We’re currently unique and are historically unique. But, I do think every society has the capability to liberalize (with the obstacles you note, for sure), and they have the benefit of seeing how we do it.

Agree 100%, as an American. Trump acts like a garden variety thin-skinned tinpot dictator you might read about from some small, corruption-riddled former kingdom.

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Nope. And stick to the real world. We have no such law.

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I would say that Palestinians, Arabs, Syrians, Iranians, Maghrebis, etc., are white. I would even call Pakistanis and many Indians white.

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I think in terms of how much or how little sub-Saharan DNA one has.

How much sub-Saharan blood do you have? How much does the average Jew have?

There is no such thing. Tell a Grizzly you have rights and see if he cares.

Did you read what I wrote?

I agree with you but also pointing out even if you are seen as white it would not confer any sort of privilege to you necessarily.

We have very similar backgrounds. I don’t consider myself white in the sense that I am not strictly a product of western European culture. But I am aware that most people when they look at me will lump me in the white boy category. It usually doesn’t bother me.

I have seen pictures of your bodybuilding journey. Maybe your grandfather wasn’t white but you certainly are. Why do you have such a strong desire to distance your self from that label.

That desire I strongly suspect is one shared by many white looking people in North America and perhaps elsewhere. Part of this cultural revolution. Projecting guilt and shame on all of white society.

C’mon, assuming race in 2018? Maybe he’s trans-racial.

Anyways, I feel like I’m arguing too much with @EyeDentist and @Californiagrown. Perhaps srprising to them, I am open to intervention targeted at minorities caught on the wrong side of a socio-economic gap. That includes intervention on the state and even federal level. I don’t like the progressive attitude, but I’m not a libertarian either.

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Nonsense. A wild animal’s refusal to appreciate them isn’t proof they don’t exist. Wild animals trespass in your yard every day - does that mean you don’t have property rights?

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Inb4 those aren’t real either

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