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Which is More Impressive to You?

315 incline, OR a 365 decline? just curious. This is to real world humans not you 600 plus benchers!

315 incline. a 365 flat with a 315 incline would be about equal, but i think you can get more weight on decline.

315 incline, on the decline ur ment to be able to press 20% more then u can on the flat bench

why be picky about this, benching 300+ on an incline or decline or a flat bench is still pretty impressive if you dont weigh 300 pounds yourself.

incline

yea. maddyd got it right when he 300+ pounds on the chest is impressive but i think that 315 on the incline is more impressive

the decline, from my experience and watching lifters in gyms, the decline allows alot more weight

back in high school my freshman year i could barely hit 275 on the flat,not hit 215 on incline but my decline was 275 for sets of 8

I’m going to have to personally say the incline numbers, but that’s because my decline is usually the same or better than my flat numbers. Both are darn good, anyway.

Just out of curiosity, what’s the source of the question?

Incline.

When I see someone putting up big weight in a High Rack Pull, a Decline Press, a High Partial Squat, or something like that I don’t KNOW if they’re strong but if I see someone put up a big weight in one of the big 3 or in a variation that’s harder than the big 3 (Front Squat, Incline, Military, Platform DL) then I KNOW they’re strong.

I don’t think many people max on Declines. If you’re the type of person to max on a partial range bench press, you’re probably using boards.

Kill Em ALL, or Misconception, didn’t know you changed names! I remember when you hit 200. How much are you weighing now?

Thats why the “pro” 120lb soaking wet idiots always decline bench

Incline

I’d say 405 on the decline vs 315 on the incline would be a more interesting question.

[quote]Tim Henriques wrote:
Incline

I’d say 405 on the decline vs 315 on the incline would be a more interesting question.[/quote]

That wouldn’t happen, and if it did then something wouldn’t be right. Be it their form or whatever. Too big a discrepancy

Decline isn’t completely pointless, but it’s pretty close. You might as well just do board presses or rack lockouts. You won’t see any strength coaches at any of the big college football programs having their teams doing decline bench.

[quote]MISCONCEPTION wrote:
315 incline, OR a 365 decline? just curious. This is to real world humans not you 600 plus benchers![/quote]

Personally I don’t do declines, don’t care for declines and find no true need for declines but I’ll tell you that anyone who can support nearly 400lbs on a bench movement will get some type of respect…

I went through a period where I liked decline variations esp close grip. I also found it just didn’t agitate my shoulders ever. Id hit 315 for 8 with no spot and went up to 365 for 2 ( sometimes when I was just feeling like it)

I was doing incline the other day, and dont usually max at it rarely! I put up 315, when I thought I was only gonna get 295. It felt way more satisfying as a strength lift than bench or decline.

SO the source is I was just curious if 315 incline was decent, and or when I declined 365 if that was equal , better, or the same.

KILL EM ALL??? well yeah, they put a stop to that account! claiming that I was to critical all the time. So thats where misconception came ( I thought they misunderstood me) and needed to continue to post so I had to retire that account. BEFORE THAT I WAS TAPPER! back back back in the day like 99.

Im 225, ( I had a bad inner medial forearm strain in my ligament that hampered me for two plus months, Its ninety percent better now. Im 225 now five foot 8, but a bit fatter than I like to be since its friggin snowing outside I dont really care!

Lifts are coming back strong, I recently just started beta alinine and am excited to get a bit extra boost!

*on a side note Id have to say that cloe grip declines on an arm day with the elbows spreading out are the best tricep builder out there!

[quote]plaws wrote:
Tim Henriques wrote:
Incline

I’d say 405 on the decline vs 315 on the incline would be a more interesting question.

That wouldn’t happen, and if it did then something wouldn’t be right. Be it their form or whatever. Too big a discrepancy

Decline isn’t completely pointless, but it’s pretty close. You might as well just do board presses or rack lockouts. You won’t see any strength coaches at any of the big college football programs having their teams doing decline bench. [/quote]

WELL POLIQUIN does indeed like close grip decline presses!

[quote]MISCONCEPTION wrote:
I went through a period where I liked decline variations esp close grip. I also found it just didn’t agitate my shoulders ever. Id hit 315 for 8 with no spot and went up to 365 for 2 ( sometimes when I was just feeling like it)

I was doing incline the other day, and dont usually max at it rarely! I put up 315, when I thought I was only gonna get 295. It felt way more satisfying as a strength lift than bench or decline.

SO the source is I was just curious if 315 incline was decent, and or when I declined 365 if that was equal , better, or the same.

KILL EM ALL??? well yeah, they put a stop to that account! claiming that I was to critical all the time. So thats where misconception came ( I thought they misunderstood me) and needed to continue to post so I had to retire that account. BEFORE THAT I WAS TAPPER! back back back in the day like 99.

Im 225, ( I had a bad inner medial forearm strain in my ligament that hampered me for two plus months, Its ninety percent better now. Im 225 now five foot 8, but a bit fatter than I like to be since its friggin snowing outside I dont really care!

Lifts are coming back strong, I recently just started beta alinine and am excited to get a bit extra boost!

*on a side note Id have to say that cloe grip declines on an arm day with the elbows spreading out are the best tricep builder out there![/quote]

I’ve done declines for that very same reason. It’s more chest and tricep if done correctly. Then my shoulders are pretty fresh for when I do inclines.

Conventional benching was to awkward for me, and having longer arms it just seemed more natural. It just depends on the person.

I’m in total agreement with close grip declines as well. Again, I think it’s a better movement for guys with longer limbs.

Also, it depends on the degree that the benches are on an incline or decline.

[quote]plaws wrote:
Tim Henriques wrote:
Incline

I’d say 405 on the decline vs 315 on the incline would be a more interesting question.

That wouldn’t happen, and if it did then something wouldn’t be right. Be it their form or whatever. Too big a discrepancy

[/quote]

I don’t think it is that far off. The OP asked about 365 decline vs 315 incline and everyone is saying incline so clearly 365 is a bit too low. I would probably say 385 is closer but I think 385-405 decline is in line with a 315 incline.

Some people just do declines and kind of become “decline specialists” and they have a hard time transferring that strength over to inclines or military press.

OK what about 315 front squat vs. 500 deadlift?

[quote]MISCONCEPTION wrote:
I went through a period where I liked decline variations esp close grip. I also found it just didn’t agitate my shoulders ever. Id hit 315 for 8 with no spot and went up to 365 for 2 ( sometimes when I was just feeling like it)

I was doing incline the other day, and dont usually max at it rarely! I put up 315, when I thought I was only gonna get 295. It felt way more satisfying as a strength lift than bench or decline.

SO the source is I was just curious if 315 incline was decent, and or when I declined 365 if that was equal , better, or the same.

KILL EM ALL??? well yeah, they put a stop to that account! claiming that I was to critical all the time. So thats where misconception came ( I thought they misunderstood me) and needed to continue to post so I had to retire that account. BEFORE THAT I WAS TAPPER! back back back in the day like 99.

Im 225, ( I had a bad inner medial forearm strain in my ligament that hampered me for two plus months, Its ninety percent better now. Im 225 now five foot 8, but a bit fatter than I like to be since its friggin snowing outside I dont really care!

Lifts are coming back strong, I recently just started beta alinine and am excited to get a bit extra boost!

*on a side note Id have to say that cloe grip declines on an arm day with the elbows spreading out are the best tricep builder out there![/quote]

Especially with the cambered bar! I just wish they made one that was long enough to rack on an actual bench. That’s what we need now, an olympic ez curl bar.

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