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Which Cycle Would I Get the Best Results From?


#1

So I'm planning my next cycle. I have a descent knowledge base on everything I am planning so far but first would appreciate any criticismon either cycle and would also like to hear what you think would give me lasting, quality results.
My stats are: I am 29 years old, 6'-2", 200lbs and 15%bf. I have done a few cycles in the past and had great results while using minimal amounts.

I was in a bike wreck about 2 years ago and it messed me up pretty badly. I did a cycle of Sustanon and deca about 8 months ago to help get somewhat back in shape after that.
I am not looking to be the hulk but, my goal is about 210lbs w, 8-10% bf. I want to feel great and look better. My diet and excercise regimine are good to go. I just need the missing link.

With all factors considered (side effects, cost, etc.) which would you prefer?

Cycle 1
Anavar - 100mg/day Weeks 1-8
Trenbolone Acetate - 150mg/EOD Weeks 1-8
Test Propionate - 100mg/EOD Weeks 1-8
Winstrol - 50mg/day Weeks 1-6
Cytomel - 25mg/day Week 1 & 8
50mg/day Week 2 & 7
75mg/day Weeks 3-6
Clenbuterol - 80mg/day 2 weeks on 2 weeks off
Arimidex - .25mg/day Weeks 1-8 (for my A.I.)
Nolvadex - 20mg/day Weeks 9-11 (for my PCT)
30mg/day Week 12

Or

Cycle 2
HGH - 4iu/day 6 Days on 1 day off - Week 1-8
Winstrol - 50mg/day Weeks 1-6
Cytomel - 25mg/day Week 1 & 8
50mg/day Week 2 & 7
75mg/day Weeks 3-6
Clenbuterol - 80mg/day 2 weeks on 2 weeks off
Nolvadex - 20mg/day Weeks 1-11
30mg/day Week 12

Another question is, I hear of people alternating Winstrol and Anavar due to their similarities. Being liver toxic, should I alternate those between the first 4 weeks and the last four weeks?
Idealy I would love to do cycle 1, then get on HGH for the summer but, damn thats expensive. haha..

Any advice would be great. I take criticism very well. Thanks in advance everyone.


#2

You’re proposing to use Nolva to control estrogen during your cycle, when you should be using an AI. If you’re running Tren, you will need a dopamine agonist as well. Another major problem here is that you are using a lot of drugs!


#3

Wow… thats like 3 cycles at once. You would glow in the friggin dark bro.

HGH and Tren would be my priority for my money(right after the PCT shit of course).

If you want to seriously cut, do a cutting cycle later with the Clen, Winny and Cyt.

At your stats you’d probably hit your goals with a 12 week cycle of:
HGH and Tren. Dose HGH as you list or even lower and take the Tren up to 200 mg eod.

Perhaps add some EQ since it is so easy to get.

I’ve seen people go from eating lean to sucking down fast food 3 times a day on HGH and lose bodyfat.
Tren/EQ balance out appetite pretty well(for me at least), add strength and good lean gains.

I’d keep the compounds to a minimum unless you want to be a full on pin cushion.


#4

Cool. Thanks for the info. I’ve still got a little ways to go before I get on it. I have never taken tren or HGH before but, I have a few buddies that have and the result were ridiculously good.


#5

If you have never taken tren before I would NOT start at 200mgs every other day. If it were my first time, I would try 50 mgs every day, or 100mgs EOD. Tren acetate is best shot every day, to avoid the ignoring the side effects.


#6

Are you leaving testosterone out on purpose? I’ve never used half those drugs, but your cycles need rethinking. Shot frequency, AAS combos, ancillaries, etc. Redo.


#7

[quote]5.0 wrote:
Are you leaving testosterone out on purpose? I’ve never used half those drugs, but your cycles need rethinking. Shot frequency, AAS combos, ancillaries, etc. Redo.[/quote]

Anavar - 100mg/day Weeks 1-8
Trenbolone Acetate - 150mg/EOD Weeks 1-8
Test Propionate - 100mg/EOD Weeks 1-8 (HERE IS MY TESTOSTERONE)
Winstrol - 50mg/day Weeks 1-6
Cytomel - 25mg/day Week 1 & 8
50mg/day Week 2 & 7
75mg/day Weeks 3-6
Clenbuterol - 80mg/day 2 weeks on 2 weeks off
Nolvadex - 20mg/day Weeks 1-11
30mg/day Week 12

/day and /EOD (every other day) for the weeks listed is the frequency.

I’m not really sure how much more in depth I can get for you. You wanna know the time of day I’ll be taking them. lol


#8

I missed the prop my first go around.

Prop and ace are best injected every day for even blood levels.

Nolvadex should be used for PCT or gyno flare ups, not as an AI. Use an AI, like adex throughout.

I’ve never used cytomel or clen, so you’re on your own there.


#9

Thanks. I added it in to the cycle.