There are so many because the people that use them as a means to determine who is the strongest are pussies. Whoever lifts the most should win the most. Regardless of body weight. I know that I have gotten a 220 wilkes just on deadlift. What does that mean? That I am good at math? Who cares. Sorry, stuff just pisses me off.
Plus, some coefficients have calibrations and handicaps for different ages? what is that shit about?[/quote]
Storm you remind me of when Tony Cardella said “nobody wants to see an ant lift a potato chip” when we were at collegiate nationals watching guys in the 148’s squat in the 600’s. I would say if everyone were to agree on a wilks formula it would give a way to compare across weight classes, not necessarily make things even, just give a comparison. You can’t say that some guy weighing 250 and squatting 750 is any better than a guy weighing 150 and squatting 500. I don’t mean to turn this into a debate of absolute vs relative but it tends to discredit some smaller lifters if you say larges number always wins.[/quote]
My whole point is, this is why we have weight classes. Whoever lifts the most in the weight class wins. All of the stupid coefficients complicate the hell out of things. For example, lets take 2 superheavyweights. One weighs 400lbs and totals 2850. That is a wilkes of 694 and probably, what, one of the top 5 highest totals ever? But then a 309lb guy totals 2730. Which is about the same wilks. So is that a tie?
By the way, not to be a dick, but in your example, the 250lb 750 squatter would score 13 more wilks points than the 150lb 500 squatter. haha. See what I mean though? These coefficents arent even good at describing relative strength… which is what they are supposed to be doing.
I do agree that we do need some sort of efficient comparision system/equation but there really isnt a good one yet. The only thing that would make sense is an equation that compares, say whatever you or anyone else lifts at whatever meet at whatever time, with the all-time records for your federation in your weight, age, and gear class. See what I am saying? Let’s take your example, Say that 750 squat at 250 was the 10th highest all-time for that federation/weight class/age/gear catergory and then that can be equated to a number through some fancy equation. But if that 500 at 150 is 5th all time, now the little guy has a higher relative score. I don’t know, something like that. haha.