Which Bench Press Title is More Presitigious?

Which title is more prestigious or more important to you?

  1. IPF World Bp Title

  2. Pro Federation Bp Title

  3. Federation National Bp Title

[b]TRAIN HARD

“BIG WILLIE” J.T. HALL
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IPF world bp, but good lifting is good lifting regardless of fed!

for me neither one, thats why I stopped competing for some time… now I’m into my own lifts, and will just enter a meet here and there to see where I’m standing… competition and title wont be important, it may as well be some backyard meet…

and does it really matter? good lift is a good lift… strong is strong… I think most lifters already picked their favorites, like you wont see Ryan Kennely in IPF worlds, so from that you can see which titles he care about…

unless PL gets to the Olympics, all the other titles wont matter too much… hehehehehe

in powerlifting there is still no such a thing as Mr. O, like the most prestigious thing that every BB wants to have… differences between titles are just made on message boards on internet, with those endless debates…

as far as most prestigious title to have, would be one… WHERE YOU COMPETE AGAINST ALL BEST IN THE WORLD, you win and you get paid big cash for it… then I think we would have unification which title EVERYBODY wants to have… hehehehe

like this, nobody really thinks about it…

so my answer is neither one, FOR NOW… hehehehe…

gavra

Very little impresses me with the single-lift benches I see these days. im more wowed by the guys who can hit a big bench in a full meet. 715 raw or 1074 equipped in whatever the fed are pretty much the only bench-only records I pay attention to anymore. ``titles’’ just don’t have the luster like they used to with all the different feds, different gear and different standards. lift where you want to lift and make it count for you

Did you post this in every internet forum you deemd fit, Willie?

Sure there are a lot of different organizations, espescially in the US. But for international competetion the IPF is really the only alternative.

Also I think for any sport to be taken seriously there has to be solid drug testing, and as far as I know IPF is the best when it comes to that as well. So for me it’s definitively IPF with no doubt what so ever.

I would have to say IPF, good strict judging not over excessive with the gear and has many of the best powerlifters in the world-as well as ever-.

IPF, WDFPA a close second.

[quote]Boffin wrote:
WDFPA a close second.[/quote]

There’s not enough depth of competition to make the WDFPF title a prestigious one imo. The 100kg record’s only like 230ish kg I think sure…

Only one giy (to my knowledge) has benched over 300kg in the fed too like.

For my money, the only two that matter is the IPF world champ, and ALL TIME bench record (ie Kennelly’s). Everything else is just filler.

IPF World Bench press Championships is THE WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS!

The IPF has around 130 member nations, no one else can even compare.

As for other meets.

The next level of Bench meets just below that is the USAPL ARNOLD and NASA PRO meets(Powersports and Powerlifting). Those are the two drug tested professional meets for powerlifting’s benchers. Oh and those three meets I mentioned PAID their lifters. Real money and strict lifting is a great show. Great job NASA and USAPL!

[quote]Hanley wrote:
Boffin wrote:
WDFPA a close second.

There’s not enough depth of competition to make the WDFPF title a prestigious one imo. The 100kg record’s only like 230ish kg I think sure…

Only one giy (to my knowledge) has benched over 300kg in the fed too like.

For my money, the only two that matter is the IPF world champ, and ALL TIME bench record (ie Kennelly’s). Everything else is just filler.[/quote]

If I were niaive I’d say ‘perhaps cos of the testing?’ but I’m not so I won’t.

[quote]Hanley wrote:
For my money, the only two that matter is the IPF world champ, and ALL TIME bench record (ie Kennelly’s). Everything else is just filler.[/quote]

My EXACT thoughts.

[quote]Boffin wrote:
If I were niaive I’d say ‘perhaps cos of the testing?’ but I’m not so I won’t.[/quote]

good point… other feds have testing also…

gavra

If I had to choose, I’d say IPF.

It really doesn’t matter to me. I compete in unlimited gear lifting so generally look to who hit the biggest bench in a given weight class (Frankl, Kennelly, Luyando etc.). At the same time, I give props to some of these monsters in the IPF that are hitting big numbers inspite of the stricter judging (and testing) as well as what some of the raw guys are doing.

I compete in unlimited gear lifting so I generally look to who hit the biggest bench in a given weight class (Frankl, Kennelly, Luyando etc.). At the same time, I give props to some of these monsters in the IPF that are hitting big numbers inspite of the stricter judging (and testing) as well as what some of the raw guys are doing.

IPF world title by a mile (or kilo, I guess)

The heck with the IPF, most of the lifts done there for their third attempt are weights they could do for a triple or double in the gym, and this is because of the ridicuious judging. Besides not one of the top benchers in the IPF could hold a candle to Kennelly, Frankl, Kellum, Luyando, Meeker, and Wong.

Just as a reminder Brain Siders got his butt handed to him by Ryan a couple of years ago.

The biggest bench meets now are the invitationals that offer money, it is the money that brings out the big dogs.

George

[quote]powerhouse reno wrote:
The heck with the IPF, most of the lifts done there for their third attempt are weights they could do for a triple or double in the gym, and this is because of the ridicuious judging. Besides not one of the top benchers in the IPF could hold a candle to Kennelly, Frankl, Kellum, Luyando, Meeker, and Wong. [/quote]

I really hate federation politics but I can’t help but flash back to Napoleon Dynamite and Kip saying, “How can anyone even know that?”

The lifters you mentioned compete under such entirely different circumstances they can’t even be compared. And don’t hand me the whole WABDLA blah blah thing with Wong. I have helped lifters at more of their meets than I can care to recall and it’s not even close.

I consider several of the top USA IPF benchers friends and can assure you not one of them leaves an ounce on the platform. Some of these guys are so close they can’t afford to. I would love to watch you have that conversation with Cieri, Anderson, Hara, Lade, Doan, etc. The looks on their faces would be priceless.

[quote]Just as a reminder Brain Siders got his butt handed to him by Ryan a couple of years ago.
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Ryan is a beast and Siders certainly doesn’t need my help but let’s not compare a PL to a bench specialist, MMMMKKKK? In particular a PL who has to compete on a drug tested platform with gear restrictions and has clearly stated his favorite lift is the total.

You have been around a while and should know better than that, George.

[quote] The biggest bench meets now are the invitationals that offer money, it is the money that brings out the big dogs.

George [/quote]

That is probably the closest we will come on agreeing to anything this time around. However, it is still a very complicated statement b/c there are platforms neither type of lifter would ever choose to step foot on so we will likely never know.

Man, I feel like I am over on Outlaws or PLWatch right now with this crap.

[quote]Pinto wrote:
I compete in unlimited gear lifting so I generally look to who hit the biggest bench in a given weight class (Frankl, Kennelly, Luyando etc.). At the same time, I give props to some of these monsters in the IPF that are hitting big numbers inspite of the stricter judging (and testing) as well as what some of the raw guys are doing. [/quote]

We compete on different sides of the spectrum but I thoroughly agree with this statement.

I can’t imagine holding that kind of weight in my hands, let alone pressing it.

However, I can’t help but think to myself, “It’s just benching. Who cares?”