If you can afford food, you can afford “clean” food.
Steady state cardio is, IMO, pretty lame.
It takes forever, it wastes muscle, and it’s not very effective IME.
Try sprints and jumps if you need some sort of “cardio.”
Honestly though, unless you are pretty gifted genetically, you’re just spinning your wheels without getting that diet in check.
True dat. I worked out that the 2 fer 1 deal I got on a top quality whey protien powder worked out at 6rmb per 25g of protien compared to 14rmb (I live in China at the mo) per 25g for 90% fat free skimmed milk or a can of mackeral for 25g at around 12rmb.
Steady state cardio does not strip muscle if you consume the right nutrients at the right times. In fact do your cardio first thing in the AM on an empty stomach and it theoretically taps into fat and carb stores.
Conversely, whilst HIIT type sprints and jumps etc DO WORK wonders, they are very joint intensive and could set you up for joint problems in the future if not done in moderation and with good warm ups and stretches etc.
This is why I do HIIT cardio either on the elliptical machine or in the swimming pool (front crawl) which are both easy on the joints. Elliptical HIIT self explanatory but in the pool as easy as doing say five laps at a moderate rate and then one all out lap etc, or 4 mins moderate, then 1 min all out repeated 4 or 5 times. Still need a 5 min warm up at a very moderate pace though. You can also experiment with breaths per stroke etc, but that’s for another forum.[/quote]
I disagree with just about everything you’ve written here, but each to their own.
I have noticed a considerable slow-down in muscular gains when adding in any type of steady state cardio, especially if performed in a fasted state. Jogging, treadmills, ellipticals, all have never resulted in any appreciable fat loss, and all have caused noticeable enough declines in both muscle and training quality for both me and every athlete I’ve ever trained to want to throw them out completely. The exception to this is morning walks, and I would still recommend some protein before hand.
Any able-bodied person should be able to perform sprints and jumps without injuring themselves. It’s a fundamental movement of Human Physiology, if you can’t do them, something is wrong with you that you need to address. Yes, you need to properly warm-up, and yes you shouldn’t be sprinting all-out for 20 100’s a day, but that doesn’t change the fact that when properly performed they blow steady state cardio out of the water for fat loss, athletic performance, and in some, they can even result in muscular gains.
There are a bunch of articles on this site about how to incorporate sprints and jumps in to your routine effectively, there are also plenty on properly warming up so as to avoid injury. Unless OP is really old, dealing with lingering injury issues, or extremely overweight, I don’t see why they shouldn’t sprint and jump.
I assume because this is posted in the Bodybuilding Forum, that OP probably doesn’t fall in to any of the above categories, otherwise he would have posted in either the Beginners, Conditioning, or even the Injuries and Rehab forums. For maximum muscular development and leanness, I think sprints and jumps are just superior.
Again though, each to their own, just because something works for me and the kids I train, doesn’t mean it’ll work for everybody, and just because something doesn’t work for me, doesn’t mean it won’t work for you.
If you can Jog your way to the Olympia, then by all means!