My AI was mistakenly doubled 2 months ago which led to weak erections. (Deka likely played a role too). I stopped AI all together 2 weeks ago along with a daily injection or test/hcg so i wouldn’t need AI at all. I know it’ll take 6-8 weeks to fully normalize my test, but i’m wondering how long until my erections normalize. I get morning wood, but erections only last 5 minutes during sex and start going soft which is frustrating to this fit 38 year old.
I have mild sleep apnea and am waiting for a sleep study to get a cpap. i’ve heard that can contribute to ED.
Is there a typical time for erection strength to recover?
Looks like this was cross-posted to the pharma forum as well, so I’ll include the deca/old protocol info.
Up until 8/19 my protocol was:
T Cyp 200 mg/ml – 0.171 every other day
Nandrolone 200mg/ml 0.2ml IM/SQ every otherday
HCG 225 iu SQ every other day
Anastrozole 0.25mg every other day (2 pills with injections) - scale back to one if you notice low estrogen (they changed my anastrazol to .250 pills instead of
.125 and I wasn’t aware, so I doubled my AI for 2+ months and wrecked what was pretty dialed in - ED issues bad, many other symptoms of prolonged AI use too)
DHEA 25 mg by mouth every night
Im also taking l Argentine, l-citruline, and the other l amino. Forget off the top of my head.
So I changed my protocol on 8/19 to:
.115 test daily of 200mg/ml
.115 deka EOD is 200mg/ml
HCG 50 IU’s daily
No AI since 8/19.
So two weeks with this new protocol and I have good morning wood, but can’t sustain a good erection for more than 5 minutes still. I know it’ll take 6-8 weeks for test to normalize, but I would have thought the deka would be back to therepudic levels and AI would be completely gone by now, so I’m confused what’s causing the ED. Do I just wait longer?
I never had it before though. it only started a few months ago when i took too much AI for 2.5 months. It took me a while to realize that was the issue (i think at least). I haven’t taken an AI in 15 days though, so i would think it would have normalized by now. I read the half life of arimidex is only 3-4 days?
I found this post on Deka dick and I’m reading up. Sounds like there’s a 4-5 week delay when deka dick sets in. I hope it doesn’t take 4-5 more weeks to clear out of the system. Anyone experienced this before?
I cut the dose from 140mg/week to 80mg/week. Do you think it could still cause issues at that level? i’m 2 weeks into this new protocol, so i’m wondering if i should just go another 4-5 weeks, get tested, then maybe drop deka, increase t. I don’t want to keep fucking with the protocol unless i’m certain its that.
it looks like another anabolic. one i’m not familiar with. I’m not trying to cruise, but just be on long-term optimized TRT. Maybe i should drop the deka alltogether. I only started it because i am on the gyno sensitive side and my doc was too lazy to dial me into T, so gave me AI and recommended deka (that i now know was beyond therapeutic dosage)
I did a little experiment last night. Knowing that one of the 3 causes of deka dick is the squashing of DHT, i thought maybe boosting it would counteract deka dick a bit. And i think it did. I used a tube of testosterone cream i had gotten a while back as a way to increase DHT. Defy had said applying that straight to the nuts would increase DHT (At the time, i wanted more beard growth, so i wanted to try it). You give it a click and spread it on the testicles. I waited 2.5 hours or so and along with 5g of l-citrulline, i more than doubled my useful erection time. From 5-7 min maybe to 20 minutes before i started going soft. I don’t think i needed the l-citrulline since i’m vascular as fuck, but i wanted to test it out.
The other 2 causes i’m not sure how to test for. Dopamine desensitization? Forget the 3rd cause. But viagra doesn’t work, so its not blood flow.
Anyway, thought this was useful info. This would make me think Proviron would help me in the short term until my current 2:1 ratio of Test to Deka stabalizes.
I also gave blood the other day. I heard the deka plasma’s stay in your blood forever. Maybe that’ll help a bit.Can’t give blood for another 30 days i think though
Not really, masteron is “anabolic” whilst proviron isn’t. Inactivation by 3b-HSD within skeletal muscle renders mesterolone inactive with regards to anabolic activity. Furthermore the oral bioavailability of mesterolone is rather low (around 3%) as it isn’t c-17 alpha alkylated.
Mesterolone’s benefits are
based upon neurological alteration
Drostanolone fits 1 + 2 and (directly) adds lean tissue.
They’re structurally similar though (2a methyl dihydrotestostosterone vs 1a methyl dihydrotestosterone). Slight alterations in hormonal structure can make a HUGE difference. Good example would be EQ (dehydrotestosterone) vs dbol (dehydromethyltestosterone).
Ordered some proviron online - looks to be a reputable source. If I can get my erection quality back up, I’ll stay on that protocol for a while. If not, I’ll drop deca and up the test with daily injections
Online is really not the best and safest way to obtain gear. You’re taking chances this way. You should be dealing with a real person with a secure email and a secure way to transfer funds. Also someone that has received positive feedback from other customers.