@flappinit posted a pure gold…
i agree with this because i know it from my experience in fighting - i am a much better instructor than i am a fighter… i make living by teaching and i even get paid by my country to teach military, yet 1v1 i am average at best if competing against people who have trained with a purpose.
most of people i have trained seriously are better than me now… we started when they were tripping on their own feet and now some of them cause tons of problems for me if we are fighting.
For example - i know how, i can teach, i can critique but that doesnt mean that i dont do the same mistake. Its just that i see them doing it and i fix it. No one looks at me and fixes me. In order for that to happen i need to get a private lessons for myself, which cost money and at the end of the month it becomes a waste because i take money for lessons and i give them away for lessons, but my understanding of technique and tactics does not improve - only my own basic skills improve, which do not contribute to making money.
Being a good athlete means you have genetics, and someone taught you well. Being a good instructor means you know lots of methods, tactics and you can teach different things to different people with a different approach if needed. Both of these are advanced, only one is good in the thing itself, other is good at making someone good.
I believe its simmilar with strenght - i am not too much into knowing who lifts what, but i am a huge fan of Wendler, but the lifts from his later raw competitions are pretty achievable. It doesnt change the fact that he is experienced and smart.
As far as being just plain “advanced” in applying stuff - i would say that it could be based on - what works and what not.
The more details you need to manipulate to progress the more advanced you are.
Beginner is someone who progresses lineary. Intermediate needs a bit different program. Advanced is someone who will also be manipulating water, salt, and how much protein he lost per cumshot.
I dont think we can measure the level via the muscle size or strenght. When i started to train, a classmate of mine also started. He blew up three times my size in 6 months and he was eating soups, because they are “nutritious and help build muscle” as well as all exercises which used arms were “arm exercises” for him.
Gains are like money. Some people are born as millionares - it doesnt mean they know shit and are advanced in finances and business. So how can we measure strenght or size without knowing if maybe it came super easy for them?
Just look at the stupid shit some genetic elites say and do.
I would like to say that someone is advanced if his methods work on other people and help them become at least just as good, but then again some people just suck at teaching, so there goes this idea.
But it has to connect somehow. If a trainer has 200 clients and none of em look like him or can do shit like him, then - wtf.
I believe that if the trainer has the knowledge, all his devoted clients should at least be like him. But since not everyone likes and wants to teach, this cannot be used.