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When Did the Brits Turn Into Pussies?

[quote]theuofh wrote:
No offense to the Brits, but England is becoming a pretty messed up country.

They may have socialized medicine, but I remember seeing an infographic or some other intraweb diagram breaking the number of MRI machines by country and they have the fewest. Good luck getting one timely, if you ever really need one, but at least it will be free.

Also, the gun laws are screwy. There was an article of a former UK soldier who found a bag of guns somebody dumped in his yard. Now this guy was a combat veteran I believe, and he went and turned them in to the police. He ended up getting a long prison sentence. I’m not sure if he got reprieved or not, but he still had the hassle of defending himself for being a good citizen and I’m not sure he got the reprieve in the first place. A combat veteran, rotting in prison, for doing his duty as a good citizen.

Sad really, for a country w/ a proud history of being asskickers.
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Agreed on the MRI - I’ve been trying to get one for 15 months and each time get given the run around. In that time, my legs have gotten worse, yet I’m no closer to getting one. Imagine three specialists telling you that you need one, and the hospital still refusing to take their opinion into account. Yeah. You’ve definitely got a big point there.

Otherwise, we do sit behind many other european countries in many social statistics, which is also not nice. I think that the lack of consistency in how we punish or rehabilitate offenders etc. is a bit of a cock up.

I’ve myself been mugged twice (once at knife, and once at screw-driver point) - they caught the guy and then never charged him. I got no explanation from the police (something about paperwork filled in wrong)

My siblings or I would come in the house all bloody from some outdoor mishap, my German mother would take one look and say “Go clean up. You’ll live”.

OP; what a crock of horse shit, as others have pointed out it’s the same in most Western countries, so the UK is no different - I’ve been able to read maps, use compasses, light fires from a fairly early age.

however;

[quote]theuofh wrote:
No offense to the Brits, but England is becoming a pretty messed up country.

They may have socialized medicine, but I remember seeing an infographic or some other intraweb diagram breaking the number of MRI machines by country and they have the fewest. Good luck getting one timely, if you ever really need one, but at least it will be free.

Also, the gun laws are screwy. There was an article of a former UK soldier who found a bag of guns somebody dumped in his yard. Now this guy was a combat veteran I believe, and he went and turned them in to the police. He ended up getting a long prison sentence. I’m not sure if he got reprieved or not, but he still had the hassle of defending himself for being a good citizen and I’m not sure he got the reprieve in the first place. A combat veteran, rotting in prison, for doing his duty as a good citizen.

Sad really, for a country w/ a proud history of being asskickers.
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Good post. On the one hand the Patriot in me wants to call most of you guys a bunch of Yank bastards, but then on the other hand a post like that hits home, as I’m forever reading / hearing stories of misplaced ‘justice’ and criminals getting away scot free. At least in the US there is capital punishment. There’s a lot I hate about this country.

To a true irishman, the brits have always been pussies, duhh!!

The remaining tough birts are actually closet scots.

It’s the US is forty years.

Hmmm…we vote for nanny governments…same root here…

Not enough Nietzsche taught in the schools.

October 19, 1781

[quote]sam_sneed wrote:

[quote]Vir wrote:
Mothers are overprotective and women can’t read maps.

Well I never.[/quote]

And us Americans? Never mind reading a topo map and going hiking, most of us can’t even find Iraq or Afghanistan on a world map. Do you think most middle class american’s hike? Not where I live. The trails are pretty much empty 95% of the times I go.

We sue each other over the most frivolous bullshit. That’s pretty pussy too if you ask me.

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Well we could go back to having a duel every time we felt insulted.

[quote]Brother Chris wrote:

Well we could go back to having a duel every time we felt insulted.[/quote]

Or we could just let stupid shit go? Or not be so fuckin petty and sensitive. Here’s an example:

http://carpetbagger.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/03/04/a-lawsuit-for-hurt-locker-in-time-for-oscars/

[quote]devildog_jim wrote:
The remaining tough birts are actually closet scots.[/quote]

Fuck you.

July 4, 1776 or just prior…

[quote]kanew wrote:

[quote]devildog_jim wrote:
The remaining tough birts are actually closet scots.[/quote]

Fuck you.[/quote]

Did that one get under your kilt…I mean skin?

Op fully agree with your observation but you do seem to have a bit too much of a focus on the UK. As others have pointed out I could list many things wrong with this country too, and our societies are moving in similar directions.

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Boy isn’t this the case!

I live in a neighborhood that has an email list. One of my newer neighbors is from the UK and they posted an alarming note that there was a feral cat who had “attacked” their daughter (who is about 5 or 6). The letter went on to ask about rabies and do everything but call in the Marines to deal with the issue.

The cat in question is my cat. He is quite elderly and arthritic – matter of fact he sprained a paw last year when he tried to jump off the porch. We are hardly dealing with the King of Beasts here. What happened, when I finally got the story from them, was that the man and his daughter were out for a walk and saw the cat sitting on my front porch. They both went up and she tried to pick up the cat by * its * head, whereupon it objected, bit and scratched, then limped off.

The point is that I had to lecture the parents (both were visiting from a top university in London as guest faculty) that pets are not toys and that they were trespassing when they assaulted my cat. (I felt like a turd putting it that way, but had to forestall any lawsuits.) I really got the impression they had no idea why the cat reacted like it did. I can certainly see that these very urbane people would be completely lost with dirt under their feet.

Grrrrrrrr

– jj

since the “royal family” was German.

[quote]jj-dude wrote:
Boy isn’t this the case!

I live in a neighborhood that has an email list. One of my newer neighbors is from the UK and they posted an alarming note that there was a feral cat who had “attacked” their daughter (who is about 5 or 6). The letter went on to ask about rabies and do everything but call in the Marines to deal with the issue.

The cat in question is my cat. He is quite elderly and arthritic – matter of fact he sprained a paw last year when he tried to jump off the porch. We are hardly dealing with the King of Beasts here. What happened, when I finally got the story from them, was that the man and his daughter were out for a walk and saw the cat sitting on my front porch. They both went up and she tried to pick up the cat by * its * head, whereupon it objected, bit and scratched, then limped off.

The point is that I had to lecture the parents (both were visiting from a top university in London as guest faculty) that pets are not toys and that they were trespassing when they assaulted my cat. (I felt like a turd putting it that way, but had to forestall any lawsuits.) I really got the impression they had no idea why the cat reacted like it did. I can certainly see that these very urbane people would be completely lost with dirt under their feet.

Grrrrrrrr

– jj[/quote]

White people making white problems…

People would rather spend years trying to validate that their being afraid was a legitimate feeling, rather than owning up to the fact that they fucked up and were being ridiculous fraidy-cats.

may 1997 officially, but the general malaise started way before that.

we still think we can kick ass though, only nowadays you have to drink a bottle of vodka first, snort some coke, make sure you have enough mates to outnumber your victim three to one, then hit him with the bottle or use a knife then your mates can join in with the ritual headkicking.

[quote]devildog_jim wrote:

[quote]kanew wrote:

[quote]devildog_jim wrote:
The remaining tough birts are actually closet scots.[/quote]

Fuck you.[/quote]

Did that one get under your kilt…I mean skin?[/quote]

aye

[quote]Kerley wrote:
since the “royal family” was German.[/quote]
and since their now queen married a greek