[quote]Professor X wrote:
Ah prof x. Nice to speak again!!!
Follow my training advice til you have at least 17 inch guns, then go add some direct arm work.
Also, those that say things like 'pro’s never used isolation movements to build their arms did they!?
Well they have well above average recovery genetics to become pro’s in the first place. Do not kid yourself that you can make pro like gains if you haven’t got the genetics first. An achievement of 17 inch arms is great for the average 99% of the population. Thinking otherwise will just make you divert your efforts into the more is better world that just doesn’t work.
And for the 17 year old. Time my friend. Time. try 5 x 5, and just wait and have patience.
Honestly, stop giving that advice. There is no reason on Earth for someone to avoid direct arm work until they have 17" arms.
First, most people will have a hard time even getting arms that big, especially since this site has been overrun with “fitness” trainers who can’t figure out if they actually want to gain muscle mass or run a triathelon. That is why most of the people in this thread have arms under 16".
If you want big arms TRAIN EVERYTHING INCLUDING YOUR FUCKING ARMS.
That means directly and indirectly.
Further, to anyone else, ask for a picture of the guys telling you to avoid all direct biceps work. You may just notice that most of the people recommending complete avoidance of this muscle group aren’t exactly stretching too many T-shirt sleeves themselves.[/quote]
I agree with Professor X. Most compound movements don’t fully fatigue the arm muslces. The long head of the triceps is almost completely unused in any pressing movement. The outer head of the biceps is also inactive for pulling or rowing.
The long head of the triceps as well as the outer bicep both cross the shoulder joint. This is why skull crushers done in a “lat style” or pullover movement are so effective. The same can be said for biceps. Bring the arms forward when curling. EMI studies have shown the effectiveness of these techniques.