What do you guys consider “Strong”? This is really open ended, it could be you think 100 push-ups is strong or 800lb squat. It could even mean able to stand and jump onto a 54" platform with a weight vest.
What do you consider will be the point at which you finally say “Hey I am Strong”?
[quote]combatreadyss wrote:
What do you guys consider “Strong”? This is really open ended, it could be you think 100 push-ups is strong or 800lb squat. It could even mean able to stand and jump onto a 54" platform with a weight vest.
What do you consider will be the point at which you finally say “Hey I am Strong”?[/quote]
1.5 x bodyweight bench press
2 x bodyweight squat
2.5 x bodyweight deadlift
Very open ended but for me its when a BB goes into serious cut mode. I am always left in awe of how those guys fight to keep the weight heavy despite feeling much weaker
[quote]combatreadyss wrote:
What do you guys consider “Strong”? This is really open ended, it could be you think 100 push-ups is strong or 800lb squat. It could even mean able to stand and jump onto a 54" platform with a weight vest.
What do you consider will be the point at which you finally say “Hey I am Strong”?[/quote]
1.5 x bodyweight bench press
2 x bodyweight squat
2.5 x bodyweight deadlift[/quote]
[quote]combatreadyss wrote:
What do you guys consider “Strong”? This is really open ended, it could be you think 100 push-ups is strong or 800lb squat. It could even mean able to stand and jump onto a 54" platform with a weight vest.
What do you consider will be the point at which you finally say “Hey I am Strong”?[/quote]
1.5 x bodyweight bench press
2 x bodyweight squat
2.5 x bodyweight deadlift[/quote]
That’s basically where my #'s come from. [/quote]
Nice! I think it’s fair to say that most who get those numbers will have a decent amount of muscle gained along with that strength.
[quote]combatreadyss wrote:
What do you guys consider “Strong”? This is really open ended, it could be you think 100 push-ups is strong or 800lb squat. It could even mean able to stand and jump onto a 54" platform with a weight vest.
What do you consider will be the point at which you finally say “Hey I am Strong”?[/quote]
1.5 x bodyweight bench press
2 x bodyweight squat
2.5 x bodyweight deadlift[/quote]
Pretty spot on. The next level is freak but that’s another thread.
That line keeps moving for me (and probably for tons of you guys). I used to think a 400 deadlift and a 300 bench were strong. Now I think a 600 deadlift and a 400 bench are strong. Once I get those I’ll probably think you have to have a 700 deadlift and a 450 bench to be strong. Basically strong always seems like heavier weights than I can do, so I guess I’ll never be strong by my own metric. Kinda depressing when I think of it that way…
[quote]csulli wrote:
That line keeps moving for me (and probably for tons of you guys). I used to think a 400 deadlift and a 300 bench were strong. Now I think a 600 deadlift and a 400 bench are strong. Once I get those I’ll probably think you have to have a 700 deadlift and a 450 bench to be strong. Basically strong always seems like heavier weights than I can do, so I guess I’ll never be strong by my own metric. Kinda depressing when I think of it that way…[/quote]
I can totally relate to that. When I first started training I thought that if I could get to the size of Brad Pitt in Fight Club (I know, I know) or Guy Pierce in Memento I’d be satisfied. I watched Memento with my girlfriend a few years ago and mentioned this and she was like “Uh, you’re bigger than he is…”
As you get stronger, you compare yourself to stronger guys and wish you could be that strong. As you get bigger, you look at bigger guys and wish you could be that big.
Strangely though as I get older I look at younger guys and think “man you’re a bunch of dicks”
[quote]csulli wrote:
That line keeps moving for me (and probably for tons of you guys). I used to think a 400 deadlift and a 300 bench were strong. Now I think a 600 deadlift and a 400 bench are strong. Once I get those I’ll probably think you have to have a 700 deadlift and a 450 bench to be strong. Basically strong always seems like heavier weights than I can do, so I guess I’ll never be strong by my own metric. Kinda depressing when I think of it that way…[/quote]
That would be my response, until I can lift 1kg more than I did today, I’m not strong. Rinse and repeat. It’s not depressing, it’s motivational.
To put numbers on it though, I won’t feel like anything special until I bench 3 plates, squat 200kg, and pull 220kg. Considering there’s people out there lifting twice that weight, even then I won’t consider myself strong.
[quote]csulli wrote:
That line keeps moving for me (and probably for tons of you guys). I used to think a 400 deadlift and a 300 bench were strong. Now I think a 600 deadlift and a 400 bench are strong. Once I get those I’ll probably think you have to have a 700 deadlift and a 450 bench to be strong. Basically strong always seems like heavier weights than I can do, so I guess I’ll never be strong by my own metric. Kinda depressing when I think of it that way…[/quote]
Most people who train can’t bench 400 to 450 or deadlift 600 to 700 and never will. A natural who benches 400 and deadlifts 600 is VERY strong!
[quote]combatreadyss wrote:
What do you guys consider “Strong”? This is really open ended, it could be you think 100 push-ups is strong or 800lb squat. It could even mean able to stand and jump onto a 54" platform with a weight vest.
What do you consider will be the point at which you finally say “Hey I am Strong”?[/quote]
1.5 x bodyweight bench press
2 x bodyweight squat
2.5 x bodyweight deadlift[/quote]
Those are the goals that I first set for myself along with 20 consecutive chin-ups, but if I am honest when I am in the gym I consider strong in absolutes, more than percentages. 3 plate bench, 4 plate squat, 5 plate dead I would prob consider strong by most standards. There are a lot stronger but if you can do that you are probably in the top 10% of people.
[quote]combatreadyss wrote:
What do you guys consider “Strong”? This is really open ended, it could be you think 100 push-ups is strong or 800lb squat. It could even mean able to stand and jump onto a 54" platform with a weight vest.
What do you consider will be the point at which you finally say “Hey I am Strong”?[/quote]
1.5 x bodyweight bench press
2 x bodyweight squat
2.5 x bodyweight deadlift[/quote]
That’s basically where my #'s come from. [/quote]
Singles or for reps?
1.5xbw x5 bench/row
2xbw x5 squat
1xbw x5 OHP
3xbw x5 deadlift
20+ chin-ups, 1.5xbw x5 chin-up
60+ push-ups, 5+ reps of push-ups with 100lb+ on my back.
7 min or under mile. 15 min or under 2 miles.
Ideally keeping bw under 165.
Some are considerably easier than the others, but if I can get those then I will be very happy. Hopefully I get all those within the next two or so years.
1.5xbw x5 bench/row
2xbw x5 squat
1xbw x5 OHP
3xbw x5 deadlift
20+ chin-ups, 1.5xbw x5 chin-up
60+ push-ups, 5+ reps of push-ups with 100lb+ on my back.
7 min or under mile. 13 min or under 2 miles.
Ideally keeping bw under 165.
Some are considerably easier than the others, but if I can get those then I will be very happy. Hopefully I get all those within the next two or so years.[/quote]
Go ahead and join the USMC when you do cause you should ace the PFT.
1.5xbw x5 bench/row
2xbw x5 squat
1xbw x5 OHP
3xbw x5 deadlift
20+ chin-ups, 1.5xbw x5 chin-up
60+ push-ups, 5+ reps of push-ups with 100lb+ on my back.
7 min or under mile. 13 min or under 2 miles.
Ideally keeping bw under 165.
Some are considerably easier than the others, but if I can get those then I will be very happy. Hopefully I get all those within the next two or so years.[/quote]
Go ahead and join the USMC when you do cause you should ace the PFT.
[/quote]
Since USMC or Army JAG is something I am seriously considering, I have extra motivation to try to reach those numbers =D
1.5xbw x5 bench/row
2xbw x5 squat
1xbw x5 OHP
3xbw x5 deadlift
20+ chin-ups, 1.5xbw x5 chin-up
60+ push-ups, 5+ reps of push-ups with 100lb+ on my back.
7 min or under mile. 13 min or under 2 miles.
Ideally keeping bw under 165.
Some are considerably easier than the others, but if I can get those then I will be very happy. Hopefully I get all those within the next two or so years.[/quote]
Go ahead and join the USMC when you do cause you should ace the PFT.
[/quote]
Since USMC or Army JAG is something I am seriously considering, I have extra motivation to try to reach those numbers =D[/quote]
If your in Cali already, you will not have to travel quite so far to get to boot. Good luck.
[quote]csulli wrote:
That line keeps moving for me (and probably for tons of you guys). I used to think a 400 deadlift and a 300 bench were strong. Now I think a 600 deadlift and a 400 bench are strong. Once I get those I’ll probably think you have to have a 700 deadlift and a 450 bench to be strong. Basically strong always seems like heavier weights than I can do, so I guess I’ll never be strong by my own metric. Kinda depressing when I think of it that way…[/quote]
Most people who train can’t bench 400 to 450 or deadlift 600 to 700 and never will. A natural who benches 400 and deadlifts 600 is VERY strong![/quote]
I can
For me, impressive strength is closer to…
2 x bodyweight bench
2-2.5 x bodyweight squat (I have fucked up knees, this is a struggle for me)
3 x bodyweight deadlift