Let me try and explain. Yes I know how creatine works. I’ve used it for several years, but never really noticed the strength gains many people claim. About all it does for me anymore is give great pumps and that muscle “fullness” feel and a bit more energy. When on creatine I maybe have enough extra enery to pump out one or two extra reps per set, but I don’t think I can link this to any big strenght gains. When I stop creatine I seem to feel “flat” and a little less energy when lifting. When I was a newbi to gym I was one of those guys who ran to GNC and picked up a bottle of EAS creatine cause everyone said it was the bomb. Well I seem to remember good results with creatine when I first started taking it, but then again maybe it was because I was a newbi to the iron game (seems like newbi’s make rapid gains initially). Well awhile back I ran out of creatine and decided to purchase some Biotest products. I started with Surge right after my workout followed by 2 scoops of low-carb Grow when I arrived home. About a month later I started taking Tribex (5 days on / 2 days off) and within a few weeks I was noticing strength gains creatine never deliveried plus I had that pump and “full” feeling I would get after doing a loading phase of creatine. I used to last of 3 bottles of Tribex 3 wks ago and now notice I feel weak and flat. So now I’m asking myself if I should even bother with creatine since Tribex appears to delivery much better results for me. My only concern is I’m not sure if it’s good to stay on Tribex continually, plus I could not afford to take Tribex continually. Like others I have felt creatine should be in everyones supplement program, but after experiencing the effects of Tribex when not on creatine I wonder if there is any benefit to taking both at the same time. One thought has been to just supplement with creatine when I’m between Tribex cycles, so at least my muscles can still retain that full or pumped feeling. Looking for opinions here.