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What's So Bad About Mayonnaise?

whats so bad about this stuff?

1 tbsp. has
calories: 90
fat: 10g fat
carbs: 0g
protein: 0g

it only has 1.5g of saturated fat meaning the rest is “good fat”. doesnt look any worse than olive oil. i mean i’m sure it doesnt have the health benefits of olive oil but whats actually wrong with it, the soybean oil?

[quote]pumped340 wrote:
whats so bad about this stuff?

1 tbsp. has
calories: 90
fat: 10g fat
carbs: 0g
protein: 0g

it only has 1.5g of saturated fat meaning the rest is “good fat”. doesnt look any worse than olive oil. i mean i’m sure it doesnt have the health benefits of olive oil but whats actually wrong with it, the soybean oil?[/quote]

It’s not necessarily “bad” but things like low fat miracle whip are better. If you were cutting I’d say stay away from it, if bulking not a huge deal.

I think people don’t like Mayo not so much because they think it’s unhealthy, but rather they just don’t like the flavor or think it’s disgusting.

I like mayo and I use it when I feel like it.

[quote]pumped340 wrote:
whats so bad about this stuff?

1 tbsp. has
calories: 90
fat: 10g fat
carbs: 0g
protein: 0g

it only has 1.5g of saturated fat meaning the rest is “good fat”. doesnt look any worse than olive oil. i mean i’m sure it doesnt have the health benefits of olive oil but whats actually wrong with it, the soybean oil?[/quote]

Most of the fat is polyunsaturated, and most of that is omega-6… even if it’s kept from becoming rancid (which polyunsaturated fats are prone to), I’d be a lot quicker to call omega-6 fats “bad” than saturated fats.

But miracle whip is made with HFCS.

[quote]pumped340 wrote:
whats so bad about this stuff?

1 tbsp. has
calories: 90
fat: 10g fat
carbs: 0g
protein: 0g

it only has 1.5g of saturated fat meaning the rest is “good fat”. doesnt look any worse than olive oil. i mean i’m sure it doesnt have the health benefits of olive oil but whats actually wrong with it, the soybean oil?[/quote]

Because of the idiots on the Low Fat bandwagon.

Maybe you could make your own mayonnaise, with olive oil serving as the oil source? I’ve never tried it myself but I don’t use mayo to begin with (I stick with butter if I want a fatty condiment).

[quote]Spencerulz wrote:
pumped340 wrote:
whats so bad about this stuff?

1 tbsp. has
calories: 90
fat: 10g fat
carbs: 0g
protein: 0g

it only has 1.5g of saturated fat meaning the rest is “good fat”. doesnt look any worse than olive oil. i mean i’m sure it doesnt have the health benefits of olive oil but whats actually wrong with it, the soybean oil?

It’s not necessarily “bad” but things like low fat miracle whip are better. If you were cutting I’d say stay away from it, if bulking not a huge deal. [/quote]

i used to use miracle whip but that actually looks worse. if you look at the ingredients theres fructose, sugar, and a lot of other crap. mayonnaise is just eggs, soybean oil, and i think 2 more things. much more natural it seems and the only possibly bad thing i could see is the soybean oil. is that bad?

[quote]bimmerczech wrote:
Maybe you could make your own mayonnaise, with olive oil serving as the oil source? I’ve never tried it myself but I don’t use mayo to begin with (I stick with butter if I want a fatty condiment).[/quote]

i could probably use eggs and olive oil but i’d have no idea how many calories i was using

[quote]bimmerczech wrote:
pumped340 wrote:
whats so bad about this stuff?

1 tbsp. has
calories: 90
fat: 10g fat
carbs: 0g
protein: 0g

it only has 1.5g of saturated fat meaning the rest is “good fat”. doesnt look any worse than olive oil. i mean i’m sure it doesnt have the health benefits of olive oil but whats actually wrong with it, the soybean oil?

Most of the fat is polyunsaturated, and most of that is omega-6… even if it’s kept from becoming rancid (which polyunsaturated fats are prone to), I’d be a lot quicker to call omega-6 fats “bad” than saturated fats.[/quote]

why would omega 6’s be bad? isnt that just because in general americans get too much? but my diet is pretty balanced in terms of that i think so maybe it wouldnt be as bad?

[quote]pumped340 wrote:
Spencerulz wrote:
pumped340 wrote:
whats so bad about this stuff?

1 tbsp. has
calories: 90
fat: 10g fat
carbs: 0g
protein: 0g

it only has 1.5g of saturated fat meaning the rest is “good fat”. doesnt look any worse than olive oil. i mean i’m sure it doesnt have the health benefits of olive oil but whats actually wrong with it, the soybean oil?

It’s not necessarily “bad” but things like low fat miracle whip are better. If you were cutting I’d say stay away from it, if bulking not a huge deal.

i used to use miracle whip but that actually looks worse. if you look at the ingredients theres fructose, sugar, and a lot of other crap. mayonnaise is just eggs, soybean oil, and i think 2 more things. much more natural it seems and the only possibly bad thing i could see is the soybean oil. is that bad?[/quote]

I don’t use either I’m just going by what I’ve heard lol

i couldnt imagine eating a sandwich without it… i dont use much, like a tea spoon but enough to give it that ZIP!

I never understood how mayo’s made with egg yolks but doesn’t have protein. How’s that work?

[quote]pumped340 wrote:
bimmerczech wrote:
Maybe you could make your own mayonnaise, with olive oil serving as the oil source? I’ve never tried it myself but I don’t use mayo to begin with (I stick with butter if I want a fatty condiment).

i could probably use eggs and olive oil but i’d have no idea how many calories i was using
bimmerczech wrote:
pumped340 wrote:
whats so bad about this stuff?

1 tbsp. has
calories: 90
fat: 10g fat
carbs: 0g
protein: 0g

it only has 1.5g of saturated fat meaning the rest is “good fat”. doesnt look any worse than olive oil. i mean i’m sure it doesnt have the health benefits of olive oil but whats actually wrong with it, the soybean oil?

Most of the fat is polyunsaturated, and most of that is omega-6… even if it’s kept from becoming rancid (which polyunsaturated fats are prone to), I’d be a lot quicker to call omega-6 fats “bad” than saturated fats.

why would omega 6’s be bad? isnt that just because in general americans get too much? but my diet is pretty balanced in terms of that i think so maybe it wouldnt be as bad?
[/quote]

It’s tricky… honestly, I should probably do a lot more research before I actually give any recommendations. I’m certainly hearing a lot about the pro-inflammatory effects of omega-6’s, but I want to look into the scientific research that’s out there regarding health effects.

I don’t think you can ever go wrong going with monounsaturated fats over omega-6 polyunsaturated, though (olive oil is ~74% mono and macadamia nut oil, which is remarkably tasty [in my opinion] is ~80%).

eh, i guess i’ll stick with olive oil then. I was looking for some variety but olive oil mixed in with fish isnt that much worse than mayo and if anything i could just throw a yolk in there and mix it in lol

Spectrum makes mayonnaise products with canola and olive oils (two separate products).

Hellmann’s makes a mayonnaise with olive oil (replaces some of the soybean oil but still contains some soybean oil).

Also I think omega-6s are not automatically bad if you are not getting too many. If you are avoiding most fried foods, baked products, greasy fast food, etc, you are not going to have as high an omega-6 intake as most Americans who are over-exposed to corn, soy, and peanut oils.

[quote]Moon Knight wrote:
Also I think omega-6s are not automatically bad if you are not getting too many. If you are avoiding most fried foods, baked products, greasy fast food, etc, you are not going to have as high an omega-6 intake as most Americans who are over-exposed to corn, soy, and peanut oils.[/quote]

I hear you there. I really want to do a lot more reading about this (for general health purposes, rather than body composition/athletic performance stuff).

I’m thinking of experimenting with a diet of 60% fat, of which maybe 52% would be monounsaturated, 40% would be saturated, and 8% would be polyunsaturated… if I took in 3500 calories, that would amount to around 19 grams of poly…

if I kept my n6:n3 ratio at 3:1 (just an example- getting below that is certainly feasible), that would put me at around 15g of n6 per day, and I certainly don’t see that being insufficient in any way, even with the n6’s being “essential”.

[quote]Moon Knight wrote:
Spectrum makes mayonnaise products with canola and olive oils (two separate products).

Hellmann’s makes a mayonnaise with olive oil (replaces some of the soybean oil but still contains some soybean oil).

Also I think omega-6s are not automatically bad if you are not getting too many. If you are avoiding most fried foods, baked products, greasy fast food, etc, you are not going to have as high an omega-6 intake as most Americans who are over-exposed to corn, soy, and peanut oils.[/quote]

yea thats true. i forgot about mayo made with other oils. i’ll see if i can get some. im sure it’ll be more expensive but oh well

because soybean oil is worthless and a horrible cheap substitute for other worthwhile oils all in the name of saving a few bucks for the food industsry

[quote]Moon Knight wrote:
Spectrum makes mayonnaise products with canola and olive oils (two separate products).
[/quote]

I use the Spectrum Omega-3 mayonnaise. It has kind of a ‘fishy’ taste to it, but you get used to it quick. I don’t think I’ve seen their olive oil version, but I’ll have to keep an eye out for it and give it a try.

I use Cain’s all natural mayo. The ingrediants are pretty much the same as you listed so I figured it was ok (i’m trying to gain size). It’s an easy way to add 100cals IMO and shouldn’t be a big deal at all given the ingrediants in it.