Nominal, I can’t even begin to tell you how much of a jerk you come off as while saying stuff like this.
While you might dismiss possibly Bodybuilding’s greatest competitor for not being an ‘‘intellectual giant’’, you might want to not that BB.com isn’t noted for it’s abundance ‘‘intellectual giants’’ either[/quote]
Why am I a jerk for saying that? I believe that Ronnie Coleman has a good understanding of bodybuilding principles, but he chooses to express himself in a non-intellectual manner. Comments such as “Light weight, baby!” generally appeal to people with low IQ’s. Sorry, but it’s the truth. People aren’t created equal. Not in the realm of muscle hypertrophy, or brain hypertrophy, for that matter.
BB.com has plenty of people who are big, accomplished, and intelligent. It is by no means a “dumb website”, contrary to the claims you have read. There is a “bandwagon” mentality over there, but it’s no worse than the one here.
Whenever you have a forum with over 13,000 registered users and no moderation required to post, you’re going to get your fair share of stupidity. That is no trouble at all though, because the morons congregate on certain parts of the site and avoid others.
BB.com has actual, competitive athletes who post there as well as the most attractive fitness girls on the net. It also has lots of young people who are just getting into the hobby. Nothing wrong with that.
If you want serious discussion, all you have to do is stick to the serious parts of the site.
It’s not a particularly genius play on the original either.[/quote]
If you say so. I think it’s about as witty as one can get in a discussion about lifting weights. But naturally, you’d have to agree with the point of view it endorses in order to share that opinion.
I dunno where you’re form, but 99% of people I know who train with weights don’t actually know anything about training with weights.
This, coupled with ‘‘mirror muscle’’ syndrome, and an obsession with abs is far more likely to be the culprit of people, either 13 year olds or 30 year olds, and everyone in between failing to put on any bit of mass.
My local Rugby club ran an academy last summer for guys making the transition form the juvenile teams, The first thing on the agenda was putting them into the gym to get bigger, with some dietry guidelines. As I looked through the weight programmes made out for them, I wasn’t exactly amazed to see the amount of heavy lifting/low reps(albiet, high volume) workouts. And you can take my word that each of these guys did put on quite a bit of mass.[/quote]
Nothing you post here is going to refute the mountains of anecdotal evidence I have witnessed to attest to the fact that normal people think “lifting heavy is the best way to get big”.
If you want, we can get into a detailed discussion on how “normal people” train, and compare our subjective experiences. I agree that most people don’t know what they’re doing, but my definition of “improper training” is entirely different from yours.
What’s wrong with training mirror muscles only? That’s not a training error, per se, but rather a difference in aesthetic preferences. If someone only cares about biceps and chest, then there’s no good reason for that person to do squats. I really hope you don’t buy that bullshit about “squats making your arms grow”. It is entirely possible to make your body grow “out of proportion,” and numerous “dance club” physiques attest to this. You may not like it and I don’t either, but it doesn’t change the fact of the matter.
I know how frustrating it is to be skinny with a fast metabolism, but I’ve heard it used as an excuse by too many guys to actually consider it a valid point(because it simply isn’t)[/quote]
I’m fully aware of the fact that people make all sorts of excuses. Skinny as well as fat. I work in this industry, after all, so I have heard most of them. In my case, it isn’t an excuse, it’s a reality. I deal with it, and you should too, instead of trying to be my savior.
The fact that you know you’re body is good, but that really is a load of crap. I saw an almost anorexic little 17 year old build almost 70lbs of muscle onto his frame in a year and a halfs hard work. And he didn’t have good genes for it, his whole family was very skinny, he was just dedicated. And guess what, he looked a hell of a lot better with a shit load of muscle and some fat than he did with his ‘leet abz’.[/quote]
What I tell you about my body isn’t a load of crap. So what that you saw some skinny guy put on 70 lbs. of muscle? I know those stories. I’ve read them, I’ve seen the photo’s, and I’ve been very impressed as well. That doesn’t mean that everyone’s physiology is capable of making such a transformation. Granted, I’ve come a long way since I started and I have plenty to be proud of.
Please don’t use the “leet abs” bullshit with me. I don’t give a shit about my abs. Look again at my pics and you’ll see that I don’t even have a visible sixpack. That’s because I don’t train them.
I am not an aspiring Abercrombie model.
I have posted numerous times that I train for size and my ideal look is that of a symmetrical pro bodybuilder, like Dennis Wolf. I would kill to look like that.
You’re trotting out the old line that you read to every kid who comes on here. You get the impression that everyone who looks the way I do is skinny by choice, but nothing could be further from the truth. I told you I eat a lot. I told you I’ve been bulking for the past 3 years. I told you I consume lots of anabolic foods and provided a small list of them. Do you want me to post my entire diet? What else do you want? A blood and urine sample?
What I want is for you to get the fuck off my back and stop assuming you know all about me and you have “just the fix” for my inherent “problems”.
You don’t know shit about me and your attempts to “fix me” are obnoxious. It should be obvious from my posts that I a very firm grasp of bodybuilding principles and you are not telling me anything I haven’t heard countless times before when you quote the same old, tired cliches.
The enitre purpose of this site is muscle building-’‘Muscle Building Elitests’’ and ‘‘The Intelligent and relentless pursuit of muscle’’ are slogans that flash on my screen every day.
Therefore, it probably wouldn’t be a great idea to go onto an internet site such as this and tell people that your skinny physique is good.
You asked for it really.[/quote]
Once again, you are just making noise and not contributing any useful information.
If you saw my posts earlier in this thread and if you were familiar with my post history, you would know that I have traditionally resisted putting my pics up on this board, precisely because I was aware of the inevitable flaming that I would receive.
Don’t give me this “you asked for it” bullshit. No SHIT I asked for it, dumbass. This is T-Nation, home of the “construction worker with big forearms” look. For a decade this site has been completely biased towards SIZE and STRENGTH and I’d have to be a huge imbecile not to be keenly aware of that.
It’s hilarious. I can’t win.
I won’t put up my pics? Then I’m a pussy and no one should listen to me.
I put up my pics? Now I’m “small” and no one should listen to me.
I defend myself against criticism? Now it’s “my fault” and I shouldn’t have put them up in the first place.
You are being a jackass.
If you just read what I wrote earlier in the thread, you would see that you are not contributing anything new to this discussion.
The same shit happens to me every time there is a long thread.
People hop into the debate after it’s been going on for days and they start raising bullshit that was already been dealt with 6 pages ago, because they’re too lazy to read the thread frm the beginning.
And my response is always the same: Cut the crap now or I’m going to have to go back through my post history and start quoting myself, word-for-word.
I really have to treat most of you like children.