what else should be taken with the PH Havoc? I already have my cycle laid out and am taking cycle support during and post cycle support and will have some novadex on hand. My question is what else should i take or stay away from?
Cratine?
Caffine?
Ephedra?
NO Shotgun?
Thanks Guys
This is absurd. You obviously have no idea what you’re doing. Take a step back, research some basic nutrition principles, and come back in 6 months and see if you still think this question isn’t moronic.
[quote]hardhead57 wrote:
what else should be taken with the PH Havoc? I already have my cycle laid out and am taking cycle support during and post cycle support and will have some novadex on hand. My question is what else should i take or stay away from?
Cratine?
Caffine?
Ephedra?
NO Shotgun?
Thanks Guys[/quote]
Something non methylated that does not bind to the androgen receptor would stack well if you want another PH to stack alongside.
no caffiene, ephedra or other stims for the sake of blood pressure.
no creatine - kidney stress, use again for pct.
Liver support supplement - high dose milk thistle at minimum. Add in some kidney support if you can.
I think thats pretty much the basics.
novadex, noLvadex or whatever isn’t going to cut it - make sure its genuine nolva containing tamoxifen.
[quote]HowieFeltercooch wrote:
PH are stupid i took m1t not much results anywhere and well i think it kick started puberty tho balls are better bigger and more hair on face
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nothing , dont waist your time and money on that crap. at best it is only good for an anti E! they have been using it in japan and china for that purpose for almost a decade!
[quote]forcedrep24 wrote:
nothing , dont waist your time and money on that crap. at best it is only good for an anti E! they have been using it in japan and china for that purpose for almost a decade![/quote]
Wanna substantiate that claim? Gains of up to 17lbs over the course of a 4-6 week cycle are not unheard of.
I cant believe some of the stuff I see in here sometimes.No offense, I guess thats how you learn. Bro, if its in your budget just go with some 5mg dbols. They are cheap and easy to buy! Then get yourself some clen and a few bottles of enenthate or cypionate , those are test just to clarify.
Put your money to good use and get some protien , glutamine a good multi and some branch chain amino acids. You definately will be waisting you money on no shotgun caffine and ephedra.
Some guys like ephedra but it can kill your appetite and thats the last thing you want because you are what you eat! Good luck!
I dont know where your hereing that havoc will put on 17 pounds in 4-6 weeks but I highly dought anyone has gained that much mass with an anti estrogen alone. What are you selling that crap?