What advice do you want? This isn’t rocket science, there is no uniform result one can expect, everyone reacts differently
Chances are you’ll fuck up your lipids beyond recognition, though this effect will be acute and fleeting upon discontinuation.
I don’t know what orals you’re adding. Orals tend to add a quite bit of glycogen retention and quickly elicit a full, constantly pumped look.
If the oral is dry you might notice an increase in vascularity, if the oral is “wet”… You might end up looking like the Michelin man depending on the dose. Orals can be quite harsh, watch BP. If urine goes dark, if you start feeling extremely lethargic and run down all the time cease use immediately. You’re probably best off checking LFT’s, kidney function and lipids whilst on to gauge just how much damage you’re inducing.
Some people can take orals and LFT’s elevate to say, 1.5-3x the upper limit of normal, as would be expected. Others literally can’t tolerate them and will rarely develop intrahepatic cholastasis, jaundice etc. Some develop heartburn and gastrointestinal upset, orals tend to irritate stomach lining.
Pumps can be painful on orals, particularly if you’re into hard cardio or high rep squats/deadlifts for volume.
The cosmetic effects elicited from orals are fleeting aside from a reduction in adiposity, that might stick if you stay on top of your diet. It’s gainz on rent, after which glycogen manipulation wears off you might have gained a few extra lbs… But you aren’t going to have comical, superhero like proportions anymore.
Strength gains tend to be fairly dramatic, you might notice a quick 10-15lb increase in bench. You’ll probably progress in the big three pretty fast… But the strength gains are also fleeting.
If you manage to say… Put 50lbs on your bench in a month, look out. Tendons can’t adapt that fast, pushing too hard too fast can lead to tendon rupture.
Can take antioxidant supps in an attempt to slightly mitigate toxicity. Nac, tudca etc.
If you’re going to use c-17aa drugs, limit use… Seriously, mitigate lifetime use as much as possible. I think I have like five or six weeks of cumulative lifetime use… At relatively low dosages.
You don’t want to be using c-17aa drugs regularly… Imo they’re not worth it, the gains are fleeting… It’s not like primo where you can use it for 10 weeks, gain 4-5 lbs and keep 4lbs. It’s more like gaining 10 lbs in a couple of weeks, keeping 1-2 when you go off whilst trashing your lipids and putting your liver/kidneys under extreme strain in the process.
It’s fun whilst it lasts, but there is no free lunch here. What comes up must come down. God… The pumps… The increase in neck diameter…
It’s fun being on, but it also feels toxic as hell. I must be an outlier when I say at this point “I prefer trt only”.
